More trouble for Cheney?
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Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#200more trouble for cheney?
Posted: 2/15/06 at 2:34pm
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
*cough*
Oh, that was a good one.
So, anyone know Texas law on criminal negligence and recklessness?
Updated On: 2/15/06 at 02:34 PM
#201more trouble for cheney?
Posted: 2/15/06 at 3:26pm
From the internet:
ARTIST: Julie Brown
TITLE: The V. P.’s Got a Gun
Lyrics
Hooooo - It was hunting night at my rich friend’s ranch
Hooooo - Everyone was there, it was totally cool
Hooooo - I was real excited, I almost wet my jeans
Hooooo - 'Cause my best friend Dick Cheney was there
He looked so butch in Hunter chiffon, chiffon
Shooting the gun with his tiara on, tiara on
Holding this humongous Shotgun in his hand, Shotgun
He looked straight out of Red State Land
You know, like the Cinderella ride, I mean definitely an E ticket, E
ticket
The Secret Service was cheering, everyone was stoked, was stoked
I mean it was like the crew was totally coked or something
The crème of the Republican machine
And all of a sudden somebody screamed
Look out! The Vice President’s got a gun!
{Refrain}
Everybody run, the Vice President’s got a gun
Everybody run, the Vice President has got a gun
Dick's smiling and waving his gun
Picking off rich lawyers one by one
Oh Scooter’s arm just blew to bits
Oh no, Carl’s head just did the splits
God, the V.P.’s on a shooting spree
Stop it, Dick, you're embarrassing me
How could you do what you just did
Are you having a really bad period?
{Refrain}
Stop Dick, you're making a mess
Powder burns all over your chest
Twenty four hours later the cops arrived
By then the entire hunting party had died, no big loss
You wouldn't believe what they brought to stop him
Tear gas, machine guns, even a chopper
"Throw down your gun and tiara and come out of the woods"
Dick didn't listen to what the cop said
He aimed and fired and now his bodyguard is dead
Oh it's really sad but kind of a relief
I mean, we had this big speech coming up next week
{Refrain}
Dick's really having a blast
He's wasting half of the lower class
The cops fired a warning shot that blew him off the float
I tried to scream "dick" but it stuck in my throat
He hit the ground and did a flip, it was real acrobatic
But I was crying so hard I couldn't work my Instamatic
I ran down to Dick, I had to find out
What made him do it, why'd he freak out
I saw the bullet had got him right in the ear
I knew then the end was near
So I ran down and I said, in his good ear, "Dick, why'd you do it?" He raised his head, smiled, and said "I - I did it for Georgie." Georgie? Well like who's Georgie? Answer me, Dick, who's Georgie? Does anybody here know Georgie? Are you Georgie? There was one guy named George but he was a total mess, he always had a smirk on his face. Answer me, Dick, who's Georgie? Oh God this is like that movie Citizen Kane you know where you later find out Rosebud was a sled? But we'll never know who Georgie was because like the VP’s dead.
Everybody run, the V.P.’s got a gun
Everybody run, the V.P. has got a gun
Everybody run
Everybody run, the V.P. has got a gun
#202more trouble for cheney?
Posted: 2/15/06 at 5:37pmExcellent. I was waiting for someone to do that.
#203re: More trouble for Cheney?
Posted: 2/15/06 at 10:38pm
Seems like "Boozehound Cheney" might have been drinking all day:
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Cheney said he drank a beer with lunch the day of the shooting, according to his interview. The shooting took place about 5:50 p.m.
Armstrong had previously told CNN that she never saw Cheney or Whittington "drink at all on the day of the shooting until after the accident occurred, when the vice president fixed himself a cocktail back at the house."
Lee Anne McBride of Cheney's office referred CNN to a statement from the Kenedy County Sheriff's Office Monday, which said that the investigation "reveals that there was no alcohol or misconduct involved in the incident."
Hiding From The Breathalyzer
Plum
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/4/04
#204more trouble for cheney?
Posted: 2/15/06 at 10:40pmI just want to say...I'm not really finding this funny anymore. Important, maybe, but not funny. Not since the heart attack.
#205re: More trouble for Cheney?
Posted: 2/15/06 at 10:45pmI agree. I think the man should be prosecuted.
#206Visual Hunting Chart
Posted: 2/16/06 at 8:26am

Handy identification chart for Vice-Presidential hunting trips...
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#207Visual Hunting Chart
Posted: 2/16/06 at 9:15amJack Cafferty called the Fox News interview "a little bit like Bonnie interviewing Clyde."
#208Visual Hunting Chart
Posted: 2/16/06 at 9:26am
I watched too much news yesterday... but did anyone else catch Bay Buchanan carrying on about the media (and everyone else) being mean for not being sensitive to how upset Cheney must have been?
And if I hear the "his first priority was making sure that Mr. Whittington was receiving medical care" excuse one more time I'm going to snap. Cheney's person ambulance took the guy to the hospital. What, was Cheney at the bedside for 24 hours keeping vigil?
Anyone else has an accident that results in harm to someone else, they have to suck it up and deal with the reporting of it right away. I am sick to death of this administrations "above the law" sense of entitlement.
Entitlement. Gee, there's a word I haven't felt compelled to use in a long time...since a Certain_P(oster) stopped posting...
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#209Visual Hunting Chart
Posted: 2/16/06 at 9:44amAbove the law? The attitude seems to be more like they are the law. And if there's one thing they've demonstrated over all this time is that one set of laws applies to them, another set of laws applies to their friends and cronies, and a third set of laws applies to everybody else.
#210And Where Is Lynne in All This?
Posted: 2/16/06 at 9:58am
The normally big-mouthed Mrs. Cheney has been conspicuously silent though all this.
Could be be she's pissed that Dick was out dicking "that Willeford bItch" again?
#211And Where Is Lynne in All This?
Posted: 2/16/06 at 10:11am
I think the situation is bad enough on it's own, PJ; there's no need to speculate about adulterous scenarios. I like to think that married adults, even Republican married adults, can be progressive enough to be in social situations with members of the opposite sex who are not their spouses, and not have it be all about sex. (Good grief, am I developing Proustian tendencies in my sentence structure?)
But just in case, you might want to check and see if Lynne has posted on Don't Date This Guy.com...
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#212And Where Is Lynne in All This?
Posted: 2/16/06 at 10:15am
Well, maybe Mominator can bake us some madeleines, Iflit.
Did you guys catch Cheney in his Fox interview floating the new talking point possibility: "Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention I can declassify information?"
#213And Where Is Lynne in All This?
Posted: 2/16/06 at 10:26am
Iflit, your theory begs the question, though: why did they attempt to hide the identity of "the third hunter" for so long?
#214And Where Is Lynne in All This?
Posted: 2/16/06 at 10:28am
Yes, iflit, but according to Republicans blowjobs are bad; blowing off your buddy's face is not bad.
And Namo--that is the creepiest thing of all. Giving the vice president the "unitary" power to declassify what the CIA has classified is how they will wiggle out of illegally outing a CIA officer, despite the fact that Plam was working on Iranian nukes, which are potentially a much greater problem than Saddam was.
#215And Where Is Lynne in All This?
Posted: 2/16/06 at 10:32amInstead of rushing to the hospital with the man he just shot he mixes himself a cocktail. It boggles!
#216And Where Is Lynne in All This?
Posted: 2/16/06 at 10:43am
Exactly, SOMMS. And you know he didn't have just ONE.
And then the doorbell rings and he says to the Secret Service, "Get that two-bit sherriff the F*CK OUT of here before I shoot him TOO!"
#218And Where Is Lynne in All This?
Posted: 2/16/06 at 3:17pmIf he is still on the blood thinners, as he probably is, then the alcohol could have a 10x effect on him and last up to three times as long.
#219Molly Ivans weighs in...
Posted: 2/17/06 at 12:45am
Posted on Thu, Feb. 16, 2006
Oh, responsibility ...?
By Molly Ivins
Creators Syndicate
AUSTIN - Of course the jokes are flying all over Texas: "What's the fine for shooting a lawyer?" and so forth. Dick Cheney shooting Harry Whittington is fraught, as they say, with irony. It's not as though the ground in Texas is littered with liberal Republicans. I think the vice president winged the only one we've got.
Not that I accuse Whittington of being an actual liberal -- only by Texas Republican standards, and that sets the bar about the height of a matchbook. Nevertheless, Whittington is seriously civilized, particularly on the issues of crime, punishment and prisons. He served on the Texas Board of Corrections and on the bonding authority that builds prisons. As he has often said, prisons do not curb crime -- they are hothouses for crime: "Prisons are to crime what greenhouses are to plants."
When Whittington was the chairman of the Texas Public Finance Authority, he had a devastating set of numbers on the demand for more, more, more prison beds. As Whittington was wont to point out, the only thing that prisons are good for is segregating violent people from the rest of society, and most of them belong in psychiatric hospitals to begin with. The severity of sentences has no effect on crime.
Texas still keeps the nonviolent, the retarded, senior citizens, etc., locked up for ridiculous periods -- all at taxpayer expense. If we could ever get to where we spend as much per pupil on education as we do per prisoner, this state would take off like a rocket. In 2003, we spent nearly $15,000 per prisoner, while average per-pupil spending was about $8,000.
I am not trying to make a big deal out of a simple hunting accident for partisan purposes; I just thought it was a good chance to pay tribute to old Harry, a thoroughly decent man. However, I was offended by the never-our-fault White House spin team.
Cheney adviser Mary Matalin said of her boss, "He was not careless or incautious [and did not] violate of any of the [rules]. He didn't do anything he wasn't supposed to do." Of course he did, Ms. Matalin -- he shot Harry Whittington.
Which brings us to one of the many paradoxes of the Bush administration, which claims to be creating "the responsibility society." It's hard to think of a crowd less likely to take responsibility for anything they have done or not done than this bunch. They're certainly good at preaching responsibility to others -- and blaming other people for everything that goes wrong on their watch.
Of course the Cheney shooting was an accident. But is it an accident if your home and your life are destroyed by the flood following a hurricane? Especially if the flood was caused by failed levees -- a government responsibility?
Is it an accident if you are born with a clubfoot and your parents are too poor to pay for the operation to fix it? Is there any societal responsibility in such a case?
Is it an accident when your manufacturing job gets shipped overseas and all you can find to replace it is a low-wage job at the big-box store with no health insurance, and your kid breaks his leg, and you can't pay the bill, so you have to declare bankruptcy under a new law that leaves you broke for good, with no chance of ever getting out of debt?
Or was all of that caused by deliberate government policy?
Cheney is much given to lecturing us about taking responsibility. When and where does societal responsibility come in?
Cheney has a curious, shifting history on issues of blame and responsibility. He was vice chairman of the congressional committee that spent 11 months investigating the Iran-contra affair and author of its minority report. As John W. Dean highlights in a recent essay, the 500-page majority report concluded that the entire affair "was characterized by pervasive dishonesty and inordinate secrecy." But Cheney's report said the Reagan administration's repeated violations of the law were "mistakes ... were just that -- mistakes in judgment and nothing more."
Those of you who saw Cheney's interview with Jim Lehrer last week might recall the passage on Darfur that ended with this:
Lehrer: "And it's still happening. There's now 2 million people homeless."
Cheney: "Still happening, correct."
Lehrer: "Hundreds of thousands of people have died, and -- so you're satisfied the U.S. is doing everything it can do?"
Cheney: "I am satisfied we're doing everything we can do."
His head still tilts over more to the right when he lies.
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#220Molly Ivans weighs in...
Posted: 2/17/06 at 6:39am
"His head still tilts over more to the right when he lies."
DG
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
#221Molly Ivans weighs in...
Posted: 2/17/06 at 7:40amI certainly haven't seen every paper or web-site, but as near as I can tell, this story has now been relegated to the archives, with Bush's acceptance of the situation being given the last word.
DG
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
#223Molly Ivans weighs in...
Posted: 2/17/06 at 8:27am
PalJoey - I keep looking up the various major papers to see what play it's being given, and the only mention on the home pages of them (if at all) is the fact that Bush accepts Cheney's handling of the situation. One or two editorials, but that's it.
I just find it odd.
DG
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/2/05
#224Molly Ivans weighs in...
Posted: 2/17/06 at 8:31am
And there's also this:
SARITA, Texas (AP) - The sheriff's department closed its investigation Thursday into Dick Cheney's accidental shooting of a hunting partner and said no charges will be filed.
The Kenedy County Sheriff's Department issued a report that largely supports the vice president's account of the weekend accident that wounded 78-year-old lawyer Harry Whittington.
Whittington, interviewed in the hospital, assured investigators no one was drinking when the accident occurred and everyone was wearing bright orange safety gear, according to the report.
Sheriff's dispatcher Diana Mata, speaking for the department, said the case is closed and no charges will be filed. She said Sheriff Ramon Salinas would have no comment on the report.
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