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#26

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Isn't she the Gov. of Arizona Janet Napolitinoor something like that?)
"All I ask of you is one thing: please don't be cynical. I hate cynicism -- it's my least favorite quality and it doesn't lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you're kind, amazing things will happen." Conan O'Brien
#27

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ok, from what i've seen, the most effective speaker thus far (other than bubba who could charm the pants off andrea dworkin) was the 12 year old girl with the bozo hair calling for slick dick to get a "time-out." it's just me, but i was hoping somebody'd tell her to "go f*** herself," but that's just me.
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#28

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I though Barack Obama rocked last night. Started slow, but really nailed it in the end, calling out the GOP for its devisiveness.
#29

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I have been watching ALL of the msnbc coverage. obama was a STELLAR speaker and Ms Heinz-Kerry was wonderful as well.
#30

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Teresa: Great
Chris Heinz: not a great speech, but DELICIOUS!
Barack Obama: Great
Little Girl who wants Dick Cheney to have a time out: Great
Teddy K: Good
Clinton: Great
Hillary: Great

Stop worrying about what I'm doing -- focus instead on what you're eating.
#31

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i think it's safe to say that the dnc is not mourning thk's speech not going out on the networks. obama's they'd have liked to go national, but uncle ted and thk and the closing prayer by an imam who's called national sovereignty an "affront to allah" they're just content to let slip quietly into the past while they focus on boy wonder li'l john's speech tonight and anticipate jfk2's speech tomorrow.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#32

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See Y'all in New York

By ZELL MILLER
July 26, 2004; Page A14

Twelve years ago, I delivered one of the keynote addresses on the first night at the Democratic National Convention in New York. It was a stinging rebuke of the administration of George H.W. Bush and a ringing endorsement of Bill Clinton. This summer I'll again be speaking in New York, but it will be to the Republican Convention that renominates George W. Bush.

Many have asked how I could have come so far in just over a decade. Frankly, I don't think I've changed much at all. At 72, I don't feel much need to change my opinions. Instead, the reason I'm not attending the Democratic Convention in Boston is that I barely recognize my party anymore. Most of its leaders -- including our nominee, John Kerry -- don't hold the same beliefs that have motivated my career in public service.

In 1992, I spoke of the opportunity and hope that allowed me, the son of a single mother growing up in the North Georgia mountains, to become my state's governor. And I attributed much of my success to the great Democratic presidents of years gone by -- FDR (a hallowed man in my home), Truman and JFK. The link these men shared was a commitment to helping Americans born into any condition rise to achieve whatever goal they set for themselves.

I spoke of Americans who were "tired of paying more in taxes and getting less in services." I excoriated Republicans who "dealt in cynicism and skepticism." I accused them of "master[ing] the art of division and diversion." And I praised Bill Clinton as a moderate Democrat "who has the courage to tell some of those liberals who think welfare should continue forever, and some of those conservatives who think there should be no welfare at all, that they're both wrong."

Bill Clinton did deliver on welfare reform, after a lot of prodding from the Republicans who took hold of Congress in 1995. But much of the rest of the promise I saw in his candidacy withered during his two terms in office.

Today, it's the Democratic Party that has mastered the art of division and diversion. To run for president as a Democrat these days you have to go from interest group to interest group, cap in hand, asking for the support of liberal kingmakers. Mr. Kerry's no different. After Hollywood elites profaned the president, he didn't have the courage to put them in their place. Instead, he validated their remarks, claiming that they represent "the heart and soul of America."

No longer the Party of Hope, today's Democratic Party has become Mr. Kerry's many mansions of cynicism and skepticism. As our economy continues to get better and businesses add jobs, Mr. Kerry's going around America trying to convince people that the roof is about to cave in. He talks about "the misery index" and the Depression. What does he know about either?

And when it comes to taxes and services, you'd be pressed to find anyone more opposed to the interests of middle-class Americans than John Kerry. Except maybe John Edwards. Both voted against tax relief for married couples, tax relief for families with children, and tax relief for small businesses. Now Mr. Kerry wants to raise taxes on hundreds of thousands of small-business owners and millions of individuals. He claims to be for working people, but I don't understand how small businesses can create jobs if they've got to send more money to Washington instead of keeping it to hire workers.

Worst of all, Sens. Kerry and Edwards have not kept faith with the men and women who are fighting the war on terror -- most of whom come from small towns and middle-class families all over America. While Mr. Bush has stood by our troops every step of the way, Messrs. Kerry and Edwards voted to send our troops to war and then voted against the money to give them supplies and equipment -- not to mention better benefits for their families. And recently Mr. Kerry even said he's proud of that vote. Proud to abandon our troops when they're out in the field? I can hear Harry Truman cussing from his grave.

I still believe in hope and opportunity and, when it comes right down to it, Mr. Bush is the man who represents hope and opportunity. Hope for a safer world. And opportunity for Americans to work hard, keep more of the money they earn, and send their kids to good schools. All the speeches we hear this week won't be able to hide the truth of what today's Democratic Party has become: an enclave of elites paying lip service to middle-class values. Americans looking for a president who understands their struggles and their dreams should tune in next month, when we celebrate the leadership of George W. Bush.

Mr. Miller is a Democratic senator from Georgia.
#34

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No, he's an a-hole.
Stop worrying about what I'm doing -- focus instead on what you're eating.
#35

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i can't believe that you people would denigrate such a principled man who's willing to stand up for his convictions. for shame.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

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#36

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You're right, Papa. He's a patriot.
Stop worrying about what I'm doing -- focus instead on what you're eating.
#37

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He is welcome to take his conviction to the other side, where they stand on those principals that are bad for this country and the world.
#38

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don't look now, sid, but he did. are you saying that all republican principles are bad for the country and the world?
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#39

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Zell Miller can have fun speaking at the Republican convention and supporting- no, sponsoring anti-gay marriage amendments. It's just a shame I can't vote against him. Guess I'll have to settle for Santorum.
#40

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I am sure there are some overlap in our belief systems. I will claim ignorance of every single tenet of the Republican faith. However, I do struggle to find any major initiative of THIS Republican administration that squares with my view of America. As for the world, from what I can tell they have made it less safe and less clean.

But we will soon have a change and hopefully we can regain some lost ground on both counts.
#41

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i for one cannot wait for the kerry initiative that will clean the world a little bit. will they do windows? i mean it will be a tough negotiation with the unions on that...

plum, can you vote at all over here? dual citizenship? zell's retiring anyway, nobody's gonna be votng for or against him.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#42

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I am a dual citizen, and I'm studying in Pennsylvania so I'll register there for the Presidential election. Luckily I became a citizen just as all those fun PATRIOT laws were being passed.

And no doubt Miller will be replaced by a Republican. Bleh.
#43

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ahhh, how i luvs me da sout'!
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#44

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I am a Republican.
Bill Clinton is a bad man, and Democrats are all bitter.
All the Democrats and John McCain should go to Canada.
#45

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Lets keep McCain in America, please

Just the fact he tells his own Party where to go is reason enough to keep him
#46

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plus, he looks and sounds good out there on the road campaigning for gw.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#47

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LMAO

I love you Papa

I think McCain is a GOOD MAN, another GREAT reason to keep him in America
#48

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WICKEDforever - won't you please enlighten us with your political views on foreign policy, national security, the budget, the war in Iraq - I'd love to know what brilliant thoughts you must have on how the world should be run.
"High time we made a stand and shook up the views of the common man" - Tears for Fears
#49

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Can someone please remind Teddy Kennedy that Enron had it's heyday under Bill Clinton's administration, not under George Bush's. I guess he feels if you tell a lie often enough, everyone will believe it as the truth.

Updated On: 7/28/04 at 05:12 PM

#50

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well, now, third, it was his idol lenin who said that.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.

...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty

pray to st. jude

i'm a sonic reducer

he was the gimmicky sort

fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective

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