It's not foo far-fetched from what the show is doing nowadays
Well, actually, it'd be more accurate to say the next episode will feature all the characters killing themselves.
GEE-ROW-SSS
its too bad cuz she is a really good writer so its too bad she does all this stuff for shock value. in the last two weeks she showed herself squatting in the woods to pee, squatting on the toilet examining her yeast infection and actually showed a guys jizz on a girls chest
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
Seemed totally plausible to me.
Wynbish, Kad, Carlos & Joe - I totally agree!
I loved last season, too. Its oddities were endearing. I'm only a couple of years older, so I was finding certain things to relate to. This season has gotten odd in a way that is not comfortable, inviting, or entertaining.
I spent some time with Lena a few months ago and she's a funny, normal and really cool woman. Her show is just weird, though.
It's great to push the envelope, but eventually, you push the envelope right into the trash.
Although I did not understand the criticism when Hannah hooked up with Patrick Wilson's character. I loved that Patrick's wife even tweeted in support of the episode.
I am so glad others think this. I can't handle it anymore, but I feel invested. The whole show makes me very uncomfortable. Now that Hannah is seriously unbalanced, it makes it even harder to stomach.
I couldn't remember - was her past OCD affliction even mentioned before two episodes ago?
I don't remember it being mentioned. I thought it was out of left field.
Vaguely. Marnie had mentioned that Hannah would masturbate 8 times a night in passing last season.
It's hard to imagine that there was a wacky episode about doing coke less than two months ago.
I think Andy Greenwald at Grantland brought up a good point about why Hannah's OCD would be happening now. How long has it been since she hung out among the other girls and guys on the show? Why is this happening when she went from a low-pressure job as a barista at Ray's coffee shop to being paid to write, and essentially fulfilling one of her goals? Why did she start to go from reliving certain compulsions to objectively moments of self-harm when her work as a writer get run over by her editor? I think what the show is trying to convey is that Hannah, who has already shown moments of self-sabotage, may have some reason for that. Not to pity her or make her complex or even Emmy bait-y but I feel like that detail on her life is no different from Adam being revealed last season to have been a recovering alcoholic since 17. Certain behaviors seem to make a level of sense in retrospect.
I also do not think the moments from this past episode were for purely shock value. The context for which we saw those characters in those moments made it much more painful to watch, but these moments was something heavily in-character. The Adam-Natalia moment clearly seemed to be him presenting himself and his desires and wondering if Natalia would like it (and deep down, he probably knew she did not if their first time earlier in the episode was any indication).
The Q-tip and Marnie singing "Stronger" moments were far more cringe-worthy moments than any of the sex scenes. I mean I was surprised that even on HBO they showed that image of Adam and Natalia, but Adam has always been the most damaged of the characters that it was not too dreading.
As far as this season. It has been weird and dark. I did love this past episode for going there but I also love far more broader episodes like "It's a Shame About Ray" and the episode where Hannah and Elijah snorted coke. Oddly, the second season reminds me of the previous season of Mad Men. There is something experimental and heavily vignette-like of the episodes that heavily delves into the characters that puts more emphasis on the darkness, anxieties, and weirdness of them all. It is interesting but I still think it bounces around too much in wanting to either just be about Hannah (and even to some extent her dynamic with Marnie) or be this ensemble show that definitely does have a deep bench- I do think Adam Driver and Zosia Mamet would get Emmy nominations in a perfect world.
Wynbish, I've watched all 19 episodes to date in the past two weeks (HBO "on demand"). The OCD seemed just as out of left field to me.
But once I accepted it, it made sense for the character so I got over my annoyance.
It does make sense for her. With recent events, like Jessa leaving, living alone, and not being able to really talk to Marnie, and with the stress of writing a book, it would make sense for anyone to have a reappearance of it. Yet, even with an episode last season where she went home, it was not directly mentioned.
I love the kind of images the show features and I love the show a lot, I think it's great that it makes us uncomfortable, at least it's not playing it safe like the countless procedurals on network TV. Like strummergirl, the thing that made me the most uncomfortable was the stuff with the Q-tip, I get that she's becoming self-destructive, but I had to close my eyes, I don't know if that's a fault of the show though.
I've loved a lot of this season, I even was on board when we found out she had OCD, it made sense for the character I thought. This last episode made me a little more uncomfortable and a little less on board, maybe because it also made me realize how much I hate the men in the show this season (except for Adam who has one of the most fascinating characters on TV right now, IMO).
Strummergirl, couldn't agree more about Zosia Mamet and Adam Driver deserving Emmy love, they have been MVPs of the season. Andrew Rannells should also get in for guest acting. Will Jemima Kirke even be considered supporting for the season? She was in like two or three episodes, right?
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PRS: Was it ever?
The cocaine episode was funny to me, and even then, it wasn't as funny as Shoshanna and her two crack spirit guides.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
Why in the world would you want to watch a show that makes you uncomfortable?
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
I'm just stirring the pot, Wynbish, I was out after four or so episodes of the first season.
Oh, you!
Honestly, if Louie still qualifies as a Comedy, so does Girls.
And PRS, not to prod you into catching up on the show, but I can say with complete confidence the strongest episodes happened after the period you stopped watching.
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