Obama Kills Health Insurance For Creative Class — Page 3

The "TELL" is that members of Congress admitted not reading it and being pressured by the WHite House to vote for it. They agreed But only if they were EXEMPTED from having to be a part of it.

DUUUUHHHHH THAT SAYS IT ALL.

#logic

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What exactly is being changed about your health CARE, with the implementation of ACA? Please be specific. From where I stand...my health care will remain exactly as it was before ACA takes affect. I will have the same doctors, pharmacy plan, and insurance plan. I might even have a couple of new options to choose different insurance plans that I didn't have before, but I see no changes to my health CARE.

Since I'm not a mind-reader I have no idea of the motivations behind everyone's vote for the Affordable Care Act. If you want my opinion on why I think it's a good idea, I think anytime that you can improve the lives of this country's citizens by offering them insurance that would provide for affordable healthcare, then it should be done. I'd happily vote for Medicare for everyone.


The ACA is not written in stone nor is it perfect. It can be tweaked as needed, and no doubt will be. But, at least we have something to tweak...and aren't still simply talking about it. Which is exactly what we would be doing, if the ACA had not passed.

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Updated On: 9/7/13 at 03:38 PM

"Currently companies such as UPS are eliminating spousal coverage to lower their costs."

That's only telling half the story. They're only dropping spousal coverage for spouses who get coverage of their own through their own employer. So nobody's being dropped from coverage here.

"Delta Airlines has said that the $67 fee of each employee will cost them 100M."

Yes, it does cost companies money to do what they should be doing. That's the cost of doing business that had been eaten away as corporations sucked more and more away from employees so they could buy an extra yacht or two. It's time things got back in line so we can have a middle class again. These corporations are doing better than they've ever done. they can afford it. They just don't want to.

"The Gap and many other companies are making all new employees 25 hours or less so they don't incur the costs of the ACA."

Dealing with this in my own company. So I know this is not true. The bill has built-ins that prevent this exact thing. This is what the bill is intended to move corporations away from in the first place. That's what companies were doing that caused this problem that necessitated this bill.

The bill includes regulations that make it impossible to run a business by dropping your employees to part time status. Anyone you employ at less than the number of hours required for health benefit eligibility must be a temporary worker. They can only work for three months before you have to let them go for at least three months before you can hire them again...three months on, three months off. So companies will not lower their employees hours since no one can feasibly rotate staff like that. And what employees will stay with a job like that?

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Updated On: 9/7/13 at 05:41 PM

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Dealing with this in my own company. So I know this is not true. The bill has built-ins that prevent this exact thing. This is what the bill is intended to move corporations away from in the first place. That's what companies were doing that caused this problem that necessitated this bill.

The bill includes regulations that make it impossible to run a business by dropping your employees to part time status. Anyone you employ at less than the number of hours required for health benefit eligibility must be a temporary worker. They can only work for three months before you have to let them go for at least three months before you can hire them again...three months on, three months off. So companies will not lower their employees hours since no one can feasibly rotate staff like that. And what employees will stay with a job like that?

Oh this is just interesting, interesting, interesting. I may have to look into this because I work at McDonald's and the owner of our store DID drop us below the part time line to skirt the insurance issue. Maybe I can get my 40 hours in the summers when I'm not in school back. Fingers crossed.

Obamacare has effected the employees at the school I work in. Non-teacher staff (paras, aides, kitchen workers etc) who are not salaried must now fill out time sheets so the feds can track their hours, proving that they work less than 30 hours. None of them are allowed to work beyond their allowed hours without permission from the principal. This is all new this year and is attributed to the ACA.

^Us too. They won't allow us to work anymore then 30 hours.

And the thing is that NOBODY F*CKing wants the insurance. Our store employs mostly high school & college kids still on their parents insurance. So instead of keeping her GOOD employees at full time and run the risk that maybe ONE of them will take her up on the offer, shock horror, she cuts everyone and hires MORE PEOPLE to fill out the difference. What the actual F*CK is that?

"you could quit McDonald's and find a better job that will better suit your abilities and won't put the employees last."

Or he could just vote for politicians who don't make stupid laws that restrict the freedom of companies like McDonald's. Why not just allow employees to decide where they want to work? If McDonald's treats them poorly, they can make the decision to move on.

Liberals still haven't figured out that reduced work hours mean reduced taxes collected. All Democrats should be forced into taking Economics courses.

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'No one is forcing people to work for these ****ty companies."

No yelling, but you're right of course - nobody has to work for those companies, but it's easy to forget that many people don't have a lot of options. They could, for example, join the army...or starve...or we could change the way we do things.