Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates! — Page 2

AND THEY WOULD HAVE IF THE OBAMA CAMP HAD LET THEM.

And that is what pisses me off about all this. And, now, that Obama is going to be the nominee, I will say what I have always been saying--this never should have happened and when there was a chance to fix it, it didn't happen.

That doesn't piss me off as a Hillary supporter, it pisses me off as an American and why I can not 100% respect Obama.

But I will support him and give money to him and vote for him.

So, Luscious, have your cake, eat it, and start learning to S.T.F.U.

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Okay. Sure. I'm so drunk I can hardly form a sentence and I am falling down everywhere.

Is that all you can do, is call me a drunk? Did you learn that from Obama?


My God, why are you allowed to vote?

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Why?

Because I don't agree with you?

Don't say that I'm posting while drinking. It just proves you have no clue about what you are talking about

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I was responding to your claim that Obama leads the popular vote. Debate ensued. Sue me.

And the May 31 comment was my response to your thread and the fact that that statement may not be true come May 31.

And the reason isn't to cheer on Hillary to victory, it's to bring you back to reality.

And what I meant by my statement was that it is ABSOLUTELY Obama and his camp's fault no revotes happened. And that's an issue that still pisses me off.

We just spent 7 1/2 years with a President who most likely was NOT who this country wanted. 7 1/2 years with uncertainty in the result.

I have no problem with Obama winning this race. I have a problem with the uncertainty because of a ****ed up race. I have a huge prob that the candidate winning is the reason it stayed ****ed up.

So, if he can win the popular vote including ALL 57 states and territories as tallied by realclearpolitics.com (Obama leaning btw), I will then and only then be 100% ok with this debacle.

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"And what I meant by my statement was that it is ABSOLUTELY Obama and his camp's fault no revotes happened. And that's an issue that still pisses me off."

"We just spent 7 1/2 years with a President who most likely was NOT who this country wanted. 7 1/2 years with uncertainty in the result."

Although I don't agree with you that Obama and his camp were the sole reason for the revotes not happening in Florida and Michigan, point taken in regard to the "uncertainty" in the current voting process and actual number of votes cast. Nothing would please me more than to see the entire voting process overhauled. After the Bush/Gore fiasco, I thought that was going to happen, or that we would at least start looking at possible ways of improving the system. But that never happened. And it's not even a topic of discussion any more.

Anyway... it's past my bedtime. I can understand your frustration. No hard feelings. Have a good night.

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Updated On: 5/21/08 at 01:10 AM

Here's some bedtime reading material for you, TD. And remember, the first step is admitting you have a problem. Best of luck to you!
Help is out there!

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You need to consider the source diva,
Luscious decided everyone who didn't support Obama was racist.

He's prone to nonsensical assumptions based on nothing.

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"And you can blame Obama every day till 2012 for not having revotes in Fl and Michigan but that was not ultimately up to him."

Actually it was. For the revotes to happen, both candidates had to agree on the conditions under which they would take place. Obama placed conditions that could never be met, so in his extreme passive aggressive way he blocked the revotes. I understand why he did it. If Florida and Michigan revoted, it would have given the popular vote to Hillary, which Obama did not want.

He has a long way to go to get my vote. I don't find him inspiring. I think he is one of the most manipulative politicians I've ever seen. Plus, I think a large portion of his followers (Obamabots) are disgusting little twits.

Lets see who he picks as his running mate. If he doesn't at least offer Hillary the position I may sit this election out.

Marc - you should vote. I would urge you to vote based on the candidates' positions on the issues rather than your opinion of their supporters.

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Obama has my vote because of the Supreme Court, if for nothing else.

What bothers me is Obama’s lack of experience.

One term as a Senator, and he really didn’t do anything outstanding while in that position.

If this were a job interview, he would never have made it this far.

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Yes Obama is green, but Hillary voted for the war and she wasn't green.


"Plus, I think a large portion of his followers (Obamabots) are disgusting little twits. "

That's real nice.


And back to the popular vote. Even if Clinton takes Michigan and Florida I don't see how the math adds up in her favor. What about other states without a popular vote?

"Don't be disingenuous. His lawyers blocked the revotes, and you know it."

Florida spoke and did not want a revote. Floridians do not and did not want a privately funded election (thousands said as much). Their elections have been rigged before.


The Michigan Democratic Party also decided against this.

Obama does not and did not have the power to stop this. The reality is that Clinton is the one who was being disingenuous. She only cared about counting these states when she was in trouble.

What's incredible is the margins in both of states. Had Obama and Clinton actually campaigned there that gap would have closed substantially. Undeclared got like 45% of the vote in MI and write-ins were not counted.



"He did that because he knew he would lose there. Now he can claim the entire state cannot be counted. Shame, shame on a Democrat hiding behind such a Republican tactic. SHAME!"

What are you talking about? Clinton used Republican tactics with her fear mongering. Have you been to Detroit? Obama would have gotten at least 45% of the vote in Michigan.

He could still win this election by losing both states. Hillary is losing all fronts.