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#1

Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:01pm

And gave one of the most inspired, inspiring and impassioned speeches of his political career in Iowa tonight! He turned his major loss in Kentucy into a major win! I'm predicting he picks up a slew of Super Delegates over the next few days. Congratualtions to Hillary on her big win in Kentucky!
#2

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:05pm

And Hillary kicked his ass in KY.
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#4

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:16pm

Great song.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2
#5

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:22pm

At least I had the good taste and sportsmanship to congratulate her on her win.

Looks like he's trouncing her in Oregon. And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there more delegates up for grabs in Oregon than there are in Kentucky? Five more, I believe.

Updated On: 5/20/08 at 11:22 PM

#6

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:27pm

Won't he be proud, if less than half the population actually wants him as President?
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#7

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:33pm

"Won't he be proud, if less than half the population actually wants him as President?"

Most Presidents are elected with a plurality, not a majority of the votes. Sadly, W in 2004 got a majority.
#8

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:35pm

Have you been drinking, TheatreDiva?

In case you've failed to notice, in addition to pledged delegates and super delegates, he's leading in the popular vote as well.
#9

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:39pm

Yes, with the same people that elected George Bush.

Congrats.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2
#10

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:50pm

On behalf of Barack Obama and all of his supporters, I humbly accept your heartfelt expression of congratulations.

Goodnight.

Updated On: 5/20/08 at 11:50 PM

#11

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:51pm

Last time I checked, no one elected you as spokesperson for them.


But thanks.
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#14

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:54pm

I'm not taking sides in this argument, but did anyone actually expect Kentucky to give a majority vote to a Biracial man? He would not have won even if he didn't have any controversies surrounding him...
My avatar is a reminder to myself. I need lots of reminders...
#15

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/20/08 at 11:55pm

"When was the last time you checked?"

Let me know when you got the title. I'm very interested.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2
#16

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/21/08 at 12:04am


jerby, I really didn't want to turn this into a Hillary vs. Obama thread. God knows there are already enough of them. I was content on congratulating Hillary on her big win in Kentucky, as I did in my initial post, and congratulating Obama on his stirring and inspirational speech, as well as his big win in Oregon. But, since you brought it up...

"The argument is supported only by using dubious math on two fronts: by excluding several caucus states won by Obama and by including Florida and Michigan primary results that the Democratic Party, to date, is rejecting."



Hillary Clinton's claim to lead in popular vote depends on counting Michigan, ignoring caucuses

Updated On: 5/21/08 at 12:04 AM

#17

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/21/08 at 12:04am

But, you haven't answered my question...
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2
#18

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/21/08 at 12:07am

Nooooo. Counting ALL states and territories except those that have not voted, she leads the popular vote.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

I'm not saying he won't be the nominee. I just think it's important to realize what the actual political climate is.

And that includes the fact that May 31 could change the numbers. However, I still believe he will be the nominee.
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#19

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/21/08 at 12:08am

"But, you haven't answered my question... "

I appointed myself. I do not need or seek the validation of others. Now, take one last nip and go nighty night.

Updated On: 5/21/08 at 12:08 AM

#20

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/21/08 at 12:11am

Do you think everyone that doesn't agree with you, drinks?


Nice.
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#21

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/21/08 at 12:17am

Sorry, but I'm not counting Florida and Michigan, at least not until the committee makes their decision at the end of the month. Both states were in violation of the rules and Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. As far as I'm concerned, in order to fairly and accurately asses the popular vote in either state, the primary election in both states would have to be a redo; and that's not going to happen.

"Obama is ahead of Clinton by just over 618,000 votes out of 32.2 million cast in states and territories where both candidates competed and where the popular vote was counted in some way."

"That total excludes Florida and Michigan, which held early primaries in violation of party rules. Democratic candidates agreed in advance not to campaign in those states. In addition, Obama did not have his name on the ballot in Michigan while Clinton did."

"But even if results of the two renegade primaries are accepted, she still has a problem demonstrating she is the vote leader."

"That's because no results go into that equation from Iowa, Nevada or Maine. There is no way to count popular votes from those states because their caucuses did not tally them."





Updated On: 5/21/08 at 12:17 AM

#23

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/21/08 at 12:22am

It's Okay, jrby.

I guess we are all just a bunch of drunks.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2
#24

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/21/08 at 12:32am

"But, I believe in counting every American's vote. I leave the not counting every American's vote to the Republicans."

And I would agree with you whole-heartedly... if there was a fair and accurate way of counting ALL of the votes. But as I previously stated, with Obama not even on the ballot in Michigan, and Iowa, Nevada and Maine not even tallying their popular votes, how can you accurately count every American's vote? I'm all for overhauling the entire voting process so that EVERY vote actually did count, be it in a primary or a national election. Unfortunately, as it stands today, EVERY vote clearly does not count. And there is no fair and accurate way to count the number of popular votes in Florida and Michigan, unless they re-held their elections. And that's not going to happen.



Updated On: 5/21/08 at 12:32 AM

#25

re: Obama Wins Majority of Pledged Delegates!

Posted: 5/21/08 at 12:35am

Lush (how fitting),

Why are you bothering, since, as you pointed out, we're drunks?
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>> “I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>> -whatever2

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