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Obama has earned four more years
#25Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 6:14pmYes I realize he was sworn in January 20, 2009, but if he's so good and creating so many new jobs, why isn't the unemployment rate as low as it was with the previous, Republican president? If Bush was as bad as you make him out to be, why was unemployment so low when he was in office?
#26Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 6:20pm
And, you just proved yourself to be a troll.
Unemployment rose from 4.2% when Bush took office (January, 2001) to 7.8% when he left office (January 2009).
#27Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 6:27pmBut it continued to rise when Obama took office, I thought he was creating a ton of jobs? Apparently not.
#28Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 6:31pm
You just have zero facts. You don't know WTF you are talking about.The other stuff was where were you when Bush was lying about the War? What was Bush doing when he was destroying the economy? Yeah, unemployment was better under Bush but don't you think that the economy slowly collapsing had anything to do with it?
What about Obama's accomplishments? Do you even acknowledge that he has any? Did you check last months unemployment numbers?
You talk about Obamacare and your parent's high health rates. Fine. Then why don't you go out and get your own insurance so they can take you off theirs?
"we're not part of "Obamacare" and don't live on the government like so many people do today because it's easier than making a living and paying for their own food and health care."
Spoken like a typical Tea Party Republican.
Oh, and Abby. I have a question. On this thread TinyMagic2 wrote this: (about 1/4 the way down)
"Romantico, Abby is in HS. With all due respect, when you work, have your own apt or house, pay medical expenses, and pay for your own food and clothing, THEN, perhaps, Romantico would take your comment more seriously. Of course, even in HS, you're entitled to be a Repubican or Independant, but be careful what you wish for."
https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?thread=1052107&boardname=off&boardid=2&page=2
My question is this. Why did you not correct Tiny? She said you were in High school and you did not dispute it.Why is that? Kind of odd. You are in college and someone claims you sure in high school. I would have corrected someone if they made that error. You ignored it,assuming us to believe it was true.
You then wrote this:
'Real mature, and I'm the one in high school?'
You sound like an uniformed liar to me. You sound like Mitt Romney. You can't keep track of all your lies.
'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently'
-Robert Evans-
Updated On: 10/23/12 at 06:31 PM
#29Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 7:12pmI never said I was or wasn't in high school. Do you not understand sarcasm? I was trying to point out that it's kind of immature and high school-like, actually more middle school-like, to attack someone and call them condescending names because of differing views. So you can choose to believe me or not, I really don't care, but I'm not in high school or college anymore. I just finished college and have a four year degree. But I don't need to prove anything to you.
#30Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 7:16pm
Oh Puh-Lease! Someone said you were in high school and you did not bother to correct them.What College student or College graduate would let that slip by, especially when you are being accused of not having all the facts. Case closed.
'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently'
-Robert Evans-
#31Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 7:21pm
Because of Obama, my parents health care rates have gone through the roof because we're not part of "Obamacare" and don't live on the government like so many people do today because it's easier than making a living and paying for their own food and health care.
How, specifically, was Obama responsible? I don't live on the government and it didn't happen to me. Or my parents. Or to anyone I know. The only time my health care went through the roof was when I was unemployed on COBRA, but that was crazy expensive LOOOOOONG before Obama. It was the wonderful "choice" that employed Republicans were so proudly hailing. As in, rich Americans can choose good health care and poor Americans can choose crappy health care or none at all and hopefully, they will die out.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#32Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 7:25pmAgain with the name calling?! Wow, the longer I stay on this thread the younger I think the people on it are. I haven't heard name calling like this literally since the 5th grade. I have to admit it's very entertaining though how uneducated and misinformed some people can be and how close minded liberals are.
#33Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 7:27pmAnd yes I was being accused of not having all the facts, but by people who don't have all the facts themselves. Do you really think I believed you when you said I didn't have all the facts? Not even close.
#34Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 7:54pm
I pointed out that you clearly lied and did a piss poor job of trying to back track and cover up.Name calling?
What facts have we gotten wrong? I've asked you about some of the things in my posts like Obama's accomplishments,You giving the Republicans a free pass for what they did prior to January 2009, and so on and you have dodged those questions since they've been asked. My guess is,you don't know. You are ignorant of the facts yet you spout out all this BS without backing anything up. DO you know how many people have died because of Bush's war? We invaded Iraq for no reason. Do you know how much the war in Iraq is costing us? Are you aware Obama was against the war in Iraq? Are you aware Obama has ended the war in Iraq? He has cut military spending,something your guy wants to increase. Explain why Obama is the bad guy here.
According to you, Obama is to blame for everything. The war in Iraq,the economy that started when Bush was President, Everything.I bet you think Obama is somehow responsible for 911 and Bush and Romney killed Bin Laden.
The GOP rewrites history and picks the facts they want to believe. All I am doing is asking you to explain the positive things Obama has done. Are you saying he has not done one positive thing since taking office? As a gay man,he has done more for me and people like me than any other President before. He has done more for women than the Republicans have.He has done more for the middle class than ROmney will ever do.
So, you throw a hissy fit getting all hot and bothered by asking you to back up your claims( Hey, we don't expect much from a 16 year old high school girl living at home with Mom and Dad) You call us misinformed but then go on supporting someone who is not very popular with gays,women,minorities,etc.
Why don't you tell us all why you are supporting Mitt Romney. What do you like about him over Obama? Where do you stand on marriage equality? Do you think the government has the right to make decisions for women? Make your case.
'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently'
-Robert Evans-
Updated On: 10/23/12 at 07:54 PM
#35Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 8:05pm
You still didn't answer my question about whether or not you actually applied for any civil service tests or gone to career fairs. Have you taken temp work? What are you skill sets and potential job field exactly? Most people do not exactly get into the entry-level jobs of their exact field they studied in college. I know Psych majors working in insurance. It's not ideal, but it is a job. You know, getting yourself up by your boot-straps and not complaining about it like a victim.
For all the fire-breathing about how it is the government's fault, it does not sound like you value personal responsibility. Yes the job market sucks but Romney-Ryan is not going to magically make your job field open like the black sea just for you- unless you join the military as we enter another military adventure.
#36Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 8:28pm
strummergirl, I have gone to career fairs, but I went to those fairs in New York where I went to college, but that doesn't help much since now I have had to move home on the West Coast. And yes, I do work for a temp agency currently, but that's not getting me any skills in my field, and I live in a fairly small city where the unemployment rate is close to 11% since Obama has been in office. But In the next year I'm going to move to a bigger city with a lower unemployment rate where I will able to get a real job, I'm not saying I'm a victim, I just think that if obama is reelected the unemployment rate isn't going to change and continue to stay high.
And romantico, calling me an idiot isn't name calling? I don't care that you attempted to point out what was wrong with my posts, that's not what I was talking about. But do you think we shouldn't have gone to war after 9/11? Did you just want to sit back and do absolutely nothing and let them get away with it? I bet any president, whether Democrat or Republican would have gone to war after the attack, if we don't fight back they're just going to do it again.
And Obama didn't kill Bin Laden, the Navy Seals did. Any president in office would have made the order to have him killed, do you really believe it was all because of Obama that he's dead?
By the way, this my (abbynormal's) new account, so those of you who didn't believe me when I said I didn't just join this site to "troll", are wrong.
Updated On: 10/23/12 at 08:28 PM
#37Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 8:35pmMultiple handles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#38Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 8:37pmOMG!! It must be the end of the world!!!!
bethnor
Broadway Star Joined: 10/15/08
#39Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 8:37pm
And if you read the chart, the unemployment rate is higher now than any of the years Bush was in office, is that Bush's fault too?
abby, here you are demonstrating remarkably linear thinking. the housing bubble which caused the financial crisis occurred in 2007. that is why you see the logarithmic increase in unemployment during 2008, and which peaked circa 2009. anyone who thinks that someone could have instantly returned employment to pre-bubble rates is demonstrating a shocking lack of understanding of the realities of life. the amount of damage from the bubble is in the billions, if not trillions, and any reasonably thinking person has to realize that it will take years, if not decades, for it to be set right. the important thing is that the trend is in the right direction since obama took office.
Obama rejected the Keystone XL pipeline because it was not "green", but it would have lowered gas prices in the US, but since the environmentalist groups give a lot of money to his campaign, he needs to keep them happy.
this topic has been reviewed extensively. the president does not determine gas prices. that is ultimately determined by speculators on wallstreet and their complex interaction with the market. even were it true... you and your parents have to realize that you have no more right to this planet than anyone who comes after. it doesn't belong to you or anyone of us in that way. i am 100% certain that there is nothing beyond the sun, moon, and stars that will "reset" the planet if we happen to make it uninhabitable. i am quite certain that the only thing that will happen is that the human race will simply cease to be, and something will replace us in a few millenia. it is our responsibility to look after the planet as best we can so that future generations can continue this experiment.
the average romney-supporter who complains about how poor america is has no idea what real poverty is. in certain parts of the world, children walk four miles to get a pail of water that will give them diarrhea and kill their siblings. if you have a roof over your head, and a computer to bitch at, you are richer than 99% of humans who have ever lived. show a little gratitude.
At least I have an education, from the way most of you speak I'm surprised you were even able to graduate high school.
don't play "let's whip it out." it's not flattering, and there are some here who would really crush you.
Updated On: 10/23/12 at 08:37 PM
#40Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 8:39pm
Did I call you an idiot in another post? I often call trolls what they are. Starting a new account makes you a troll.I've been here for years and have never had any reason to create a second account.I think Rob would be very interested to know that you have created a new account. I wonder what reason you have for doing such an idiotic thing.
We SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE TO WAR WITH IRAQ AFTER 911. Iraq had nothing to do with 911. Nothing. Going to war with the right people would have been helpful. DO you at least admit Iraq was a mistake? First we went o liberate the people. Then to get WMD,even though our intelligence said there weren't any.
OBAMA DID GET Bin Laden. Deal with it, its a fact.911 happened on Bush's watch and Bin Laden was killed on Obama's. Obama gave the order. It could have easily gone wrong and YOU would be blaming Obama if it had. ANy President would have made that call you claim? Bush didn;t. Bush allowed him to get away. for 7 years, Bush couldn't get him. On 911 he said he'd get those responsible. The later on he got lazy and said he doesn't think much about Bin Laden.
OBAMA KILLED BIN LADEN and all you morons who claim he didn't are just sore that a Democrat did what a Republican could not do!
So, SFGiantsfan38 is Abbynormal? Um, tell me again how you are not a troll?(or in high school) So, creating a new account. Why? (idiot!)
'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently'
-Robert Evans-
Updated On: 10/23/12 at 08:39 PM
#41Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 8:57pm
I made that account over four years ago and I wanted to change it now, is that such a big deal? I'm sorry that my life doesn't revolve around what my status is on this website. I could care less if I'm a "broadway legend" or "swing", it really doesn't matter at all, but you guys make a federal case out of it and assume I'm a troll because I want a new name.
So you say 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, true, but was it his fault? No. And intelligence mislead Bush and his people saying there were WMD, he didn't just send troops over there blindly. And the attacks in Libya happened on obama's watch, and he blamed it on a youtube video and said for two weeks that it wasn't a terrorist attack!!
#42Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 9:05pm
I was super excited to see another SF Giants fan, until I saw who it was.
Don't judge the Giants based on one idiot. And please don't say you live in San Francisco.
#43Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 9:11pm
You can;t believe a word out of this idiot trolls mouth. More than likely a 16 year old who got caught lying trying to do damage control. Can;t even defend their stupid political positions. What a moron!
How do we know that, troll? You have lied so much in this thread. CLaiming to be a college student, even though you allowed people to go on thinking you were a high schooler. You act like a high high school student. Seriously. A college graduate who sits back and says nothing when someone calls them a high school student. We are not as stupid as you are (and you really are a dim wit)
Um, why change it? You had an account, or so you say, for 4 years. We have been infested with trolls over the past week. Why anyone who has been posting here would make such a stupid move just shows how bright you are.
I never said 911 was Bush's fault. I'm just playing by your rules to your game.BS on the intelligence. Google Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson.Bush knew there were no WMD and he LIED in order to get his war. WAKE UP!
He did not take 2 weeks to say it was a terrorist attacks (LIE). Mitt told that lie at the 2nd debate and got his ass handed to him. The attack was on a video (YET ANOTHER LIE). You are as blank as a fart. You've made so many errors in this post alone.
A troll who comes here with lies who gets upset for being outed and called an idiot. Well, you are.
No idea who you are. SO, will you posting under Abby's name when you want to stir things up? What a moron!Happy Trolling!
'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently'
-Robert Evans-
Updated On: 10/23/12 at 09:11 PM
#44Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 9:14pmall you guys have to do is click abby's bww profile, and then google. not too difficult. just sayin', if you put it out there........
#45Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 9:16pm
Geez - I just came on here and read through this thread, hoping for a real debate.
I just can't for the life of me understand how anyone not in the top 1% of this country could POSSIBLY vote for Romney. It seems so clear we're going to go right back to where we were four years ago with the country in a ****hole and getting worse with each passing month if Romney wins.
I hoped Abby would have some reason to justify a vote for him. Alas, like every other Republican supporter I've had debates with, she has no good explanation or rationale at all - just lies and talking points that have as much to do with reality as Romney has to do with Buddhism.
Hi, Shirley Temple Pudding.
#47Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 9:22pm
That still makes her older than I thought she was.Hopefully the lying will stop before she gets to college.
How old was she in 2008 when she created her first account?
'There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently'
-Robert Evans-
Updated On: 10/23/12 at 09:22 PM
#48Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 9:46pmI just turned 23, but act older than most of you. I haven't had to stoop so low as to call you morons and idiots like you have been calling me, even though I think it every time I read one of your posts.
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Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#49Obama has earned four more years
Posted: 10/23/12 at 9:56pmCould you explain the circumstances of the substantial increase in your parents' insurance and in what way it is the current president's fault? Thanking you in advance.
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