Obama was "For It" before he was "Against It"
Obama was "For It" before he was "Against It"
#1Obama was "For It" before he was "Against It"
Posted: 8/15/10 at 9:09am
Is obama's endorsement of the Mosque at ground zero part of the hope and change we voted for?
Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son was killed at the World Trade Center, said the president had failed to understand the issue. "As an Obama supporter, I really feel that he's lost sight of the germane issue, which is not about freedom of religion," she said. "It's about a gross lack of sensitivity to the 9/11 families and to the people who were lost."
Obama Has Lost Sight
Updated On: 8/15/10 at 09:09 AM
#2Obama was "For It" before he was "Against It"
Posted: 8/15/10 at 9:24am
I hope that this isn't an indication of more problems before the mid-term elections.
"Barack Obama has abandoned America at the place where America's heart was broken nine years ago, and where her true values were on display for all to see," said Debra Burlingame, a spokeswoman for some Sept. 11 victims' families and the sister of one of the pilots killed in the attacks.
Building the mosque at ground zero, she said, "is a deliberately provocative act that will precipitate more bloodshed in the name of Allah."
#3Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/15/10 at 9:42am
Indeed, the criticism was so intense that the White House ultimately issued an elaboration on the president’s clarification, insisting that the president was “not backing off in any way” from the comments he made Friday night.
Obama Was For It Before He Was Against It
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#4Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/15/10 at 9:51am
Obama's biggest problem in my opinion isn't his politics - it's his gross lack of experience. He's constantly weighing in on stuff he shouldn't and thinks it's more important to pass 'historic' legislation than, you know, effective and wise legislation. I have no problem with the President doing something controversial, I mean, most everything they do is going to get picked apart by the other side. Just choose your spots man.
The mosque is going to get built or not regardless of what Obama says, it's not under his control. So really the ONLY thing he could accomplish by spouting off on the issue was to piss a lot of people off - no matter his stance.
So shut the hell up dummy! He's just too green a politician, WAY too green a leader.
And you know what - that was Bush's biggest flaw too. Not enough experience or wisdom to be a good President.
People need to start factoring in experience above things like, "Speaks well from a teleprompter" or "I'd like to have a beer with him". Which are pretty much how Obama and Bush got respectively elected.
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#5Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/15/10 at 9:53am
#6Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/15/10 at 10:03am
"Obama's biggest problem in my opinion isn't his politics - it's his gross lack of experience"
Well stated, my friend, well stated!
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Joined: 12/31/69
#7Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/15/10 at 10:07amAs an Obama supporter, I'd think you'd be bothered when people refer to his wife as "Moochelle."
#8Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/15/10 at 10:17am
Oh yes, yes! It's such a shame that Michelle placed herself in a situation where people would call her Moochelle.
And now, with Barack being for the Mosque before he was against it, trouble is breaking out all over.
#9Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/15/10 at 10:22am
I don't mind being on the side of the NY Times on this one...
He emphasized that he was standing up for a basic principle, not endorsing the idea of putting a mosque at that specific location. But the distinction seems an academic one. At no point has Obama said it's a bad idea to put a mosque at that site even if the owners have the right to do so.
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#10Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/15/10 at 10:24pmBarack Obama never said he was against the Mosque. Never. Another in an unending string of lies out of you. That's why it's not worth trying to have an intelligent discussion. You're a liar and none too bright. No wonder you're a Republican.
#11Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/15/10 at 11:08pm
Oh, I assure you, I am a democrat; a very disappointed democrat.
It's a shame the way Mr. Obama has spoken about that mosque. He said it is their right, and then said he could not speak to the wisdom of building it. Then Joe Gibbs issued an explanation of that clarification.
Yep. He was for it before he was against it. Wonder if he's talking to John Kerry yet.
#12Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/16/10 at 7:59am
Pat Caddell, Jimmy Carter's pollster, is saying that Obama made a "straw man" argument for this issue. No one, and I mean no one, is debating the constitutional right to build the mosque. The American people (over a 60% majority) are against the mosque being built. It is unseemly and unwanted.
The President was for it before he was against it, and an additional clarification from the White House won't stop the majority from voting against us democrats on this issue in November.
#13Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/16/10 at 10:55am
The voices of reason are pouring in: Larry Sabato, INDEPENDENT political consultant on Obama's big mouth:
A lot of endangered congressional Democrats must be wondering why President Obama waded into this hot controversy when it was both politically foolish and unnecessary. Good question. In a tough election season it's ok for the leader of a party to duck a few controversial items. The troops in the field appreciate it.
The political damage is done and now all Democrats will have to take a stand on this "local issue" that Obama has nationalized.
The consolation for Democrats is that voters have resisted a long list of other distractions (the BP oil spill, immigration, gay marriage) to focus heavily on the rotten economy. Come to think of it, that isn't much of a consolation. Some years, a party just can't win.
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Joined: 12/31/69
#14Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/16/10 at 11:08am
No. He never said he was against it. Are you really that stupid or are you a liar.
Do you ever have an actual thought of your own? I hope you hold your students to higher standards. I'd hate to see your class submitting the same kind of cut-n-paste crap you post.
#15Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/16/10 at 1:04pm
It is universally agreed that Obama is talking out of all sides of his mouth.
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#16Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/16/10 at 1:56pm
Gosh, again he refuses to back up his claim that Obama said he was against the mosque. Why do you even try to discuss politics?
Updated On: 8/16/10 at 01:56 PM
#17Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/16/10 at 4:42pm
White House aides have spent four days trying to explain exactly where the normally eloquent president stands on the mosque. Obama’s ringing statement in support of religious equality Friday, followed a day later by a caveat, stoked anew false Internet rumors about his citizenship and religion.
He was for it before he was against it
#18Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/16/10 at 4:50pm
President Obama on Saturday said he had not expressed an opinion the day before on whether a mosque two blocks from Ground Zero is appropriate, as the White House scrambled to limit the political damage from the president’s seeming expression of support for the project at a dinner with Muslim leaders at the White House.
“My intention was simply to let people know what I thought,” Obama said Saturday, after causing a stir Friday at a White House Iftar dinner to celebrate the Muslim holiday of Ramadan.
“In this country, we treat everybody equally and in accordance with the law, regardless of race, regardless of religion. I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there,” Obama told reporters accompanying him and first lady Michelle Obama on a trip to the Gulf Coast.
“I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding.”
The president’s clarification appeared to be a significant step backwards from remarks he made Friday at the Iftar dinner, when he seemed to wholeheartedly endorse the idea of building a mosque and Muslim community center near the site of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attack in New York.
“As a citizen, and as President, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country,” Obama said Friday. “And that includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in Lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America. And our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable.”
But deputy White House press secretary Bill Burton said in a statement Saturday: “Just to be clear, the President is not backing off in any way from the comments he made last night.”
“It is not his role as President to pass judgment on every local project.? But it is his responsibility to stand up for the Constitutional principle of religious freedom and equal treatment for all Americans,” Burton said. “What he said last night, and reaffirmed today, is that If a church, a synagogue or a Hindu temple can be built on a site, you simply cannot deny that right to those who want to build a Mosque.”
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#19Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/16/10 at 5:15pm
Look at that, staying on topic just like a big boy! I am so proud of you!
But now what you need to do is make sure that the cut-n-paste has to actually back up the point you are tryign to make. YOUR point, was that OBAMA was AGAINST the Mosque and made statements to that effect. The problem for that argument is that he didn't. You posted an OPINION that Obama has shifted his position, but like you, he SAYS he did but doesn't actually SITE any examples.
Here's an example of something someone who is AGAINST the mosque said so you can see the difference:
“There is nothing surprising in the president’s continued pandering to radical Islam,” Newt Gingrich said. “What he said last night is untrue and in accurate. The fact is this is not about religious liberty.”
Mr. Gingrich said the proposed mosque would be a symbol of Muslim “triumphalism” and that building the mosque near the site of the Sept. 11 attacks “would be like putting a Nazi sign next to the Holocaust Museum.”
“It’s profoundly and terribly wrong,” he said.
See the subtle difference there? I have faith that eventually you will get the hang of having an intelligent political discussion! You've come a long, long way!
#20The Count is DESPERATE......and is a LIAR!
Posted: 8/16/10 at 5:24pmCoont A is really getting owned today! His lies don't add up. He is desperate and every time he posts it discredits him just more. I am loving it! What a stooge! To waste his time when everyone is laughing at him shows how desperate and stupid he is. Hahaha!
#21The Count is DESPERATE......and is a LIAR!
Posted: 8/16/10 at 5:26pmIt was so much simpler when all you had to do was mention Obama's middle name and the righties wet their pants.
#22Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/16/10 at 6:06pm
Barack Hoover Obama? (A comment on the Obama economy for those of you that just don't get it)
"OBAMA was AGAINST the Mosque and made statements to that effect"
A short history lesson: The phrase "He was for it before he was against it" originated in the 2004 Presidential campaign. John F. Kerry was trying to have it both ways on a defense spending bill.
In the same manner, Obama is trying to have it both ways on the Mosque at ground zero. Many democrats agree that Obama is trying to have it both ways.
The fact that you took the statement out of context is your choice, and I'm genuinely sorry that you have continued to frustrated yourself with this false, delusional situation you have created in your head. HOWEVER, for the time being, the remainder of us will continue to state with great sincerity and honesty: "He was for it before he was against it."
The above statement rings with a TRUTH that you will never know.
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#23Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It'
Posted: 8/16/10 at 6:31pm
I didn't ask if "many Democrats" were wrong also, I asked you to back up a point you have made repeatedly and quite forcefully. I assume that when someone holds a very strong opinion, they have reasons to think so and if they make a statement as fact (i.e. "Obama was 'For It' before he was 'Against It':") then an adult of moderate intelligence should be able to produce an example of that happening.
Again, I'm not looking for you to cite another (uncredited) opinion- I want you to cite the incident where Barack Obama said he was against the mosque.
See, I maintain he didn't say that and your failure to produce evidence that he did is, to me, proof that your statement is false. Are you following me? Do I need to break it down farther?
Can you show me when and where Braack Obama said he was against this mosque?
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#24If I can teach a pig to whittle I can teach this guy to argue
Posted: 8/16/10 at 6:32pmAnd yes yes, we all know where that "clever" turn of phrase came from. Updated On: 8/16/10 at 06:32 PM
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