Obamacare Potpourri- Page 2

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 4:17pm

Findings from a new survey of the Doctor/Patient Medical Association finds 83% of physicians are thinking of quitting over Obamacare

You take that from the same place that collects statistics of those people who were moving to Canada when Obama gets elected?

I've considered quitting my job almost every single day.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 6:06pm

Roxy is on government healthcare and is frustrated became his wife can't get on it yet. And he thinks government healthcare is a disaster. Just had to say that out loud to make sure I'm not the crazy one.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 7:25pm

Something like that...
Updated On: 10/5/13 at 07:25 PM

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 7:32pm

Are we even sure the "Mrs." is real? Roxy strikes me as the type of person who makes Norman Bates look sane.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 7:48pm

Folks, let us not mock Mrs R. She is need of medical help!

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 7:52pm

I enjoy cracking wise at his expense, but Mrs. Roxy is a BILLBOARD for why we need this reform. Roxy seems to realize it's a great thing (considering she's gotten carpal tunnel trying to enroll) but he STILL rants about how awful it is. It's baffling.

PS Mrs. R coverage kicks in 1/1/2014 and you have until December 15th to sign up to get it then. Take a week, let the crowds die down, then try.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 7:59pm

Joe, that is what is so amazing - the demand to pay for affordable health care is clearly there, and our "free market" system was so busy creating jurisdictional monopolies and and focusing on investors and wall street rather than their potential customers, that they were left without a product that was affordable.

Think about it, for all of the complaining, demand is far beyond what was anticipated for a product that will not even be available until 1/2014. The GOP is afraid of exactly that fact - even with glitches (and there will be many) the GOP knows that a successful roll out of Obamacare will undermine their party platform for the past 30+ years. This is not "Welfare Queens in Cadillacs" trying to enroll - these are your kids, your neighbors, your siblings, your friends, and in some instances, your spouse, trying just to have that little piece of security that comes with decent health insurance.

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 8:10pm

All this nonsense and silliness is way better than the fall TV line up.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 8:19pm

Mom is better.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 9:12pm

And DADS is worse.

[Marianne2]

Posted: 10/5/13 at 9:26pm

I think my sister could be Mrs. Roxy. She just sent me some scary text messages about this because I was not interested in joining her in voting for the Anti-Immigration Party in the NJ senate election. Oh, maybe that makes her Goth's girlfriend instead. Racist and against everything Obama.

[dented146]

Posted: 10/6/13 at 2:14am

There is a big difference between Medicare and the ACA. Roxy and everyone else 65 and over, put money into the system their whole working life. As an employer, the first 11% of my income tax goes into the Social Security system. In addition, I pay half of my employees' payment. That is how it is funded.

The ACA does not start with billions already in the program. The ACA depends on young adults paying into the program and, currently, there is precious little incentive to do so.

No money, no workable program unless the government funds the system with new taxes or increases the debt to pay for it. The ACA is very complicated but the funding is either there or not.

Updated On: 10/6/13 at 02:14 AM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/6/13 at 3:48am

But that's how insurance works.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 10/6/13 at 4:11am

Now don't go try throwing your logic into this, Phyllis. You're only going to confuse them,

[siny]

Posted: 10/6/13 at 10:59am

No, Roxy and other retirees did not put enough money in the system to finance their Medicare. An average person on Medicare gets close to 4 times what they had contributed. The way Medicare works is that Roxies of this world paid for their parents' Medicare when they were working and now that they are retired their Medicare is paid for out of the taxes paid for by people who are working now.
What You Paid vs. What You Get

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 10/6/13 at 11:35am

And that system, just like the healthcare system, is broken. Just because it's what we do and know doesn't make it the solution or the right answer. The programs need to be improved, modified, streamlined. It's all a mess. That all being said, none of it should be used as an excuse to shut down the government.

[dented146]

Posted: 10/6/13 at 12:58pm

siny. You are absolutely correct. But that wasn't the original plan. The increase of people on Medicare due to the large numbers of Babyboomers combined with the lower number of workers paying into the system is busting the program. The same is true with Social Security. But try raising the retirement age or changing benefits.

Once people have something, they never want to lose it even if succeeding generations must suffer for it. No one seems to get that.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/6/13 at 1:47pm

Here's my truth dented. I have worked my entire life, and just for about my entire life, paid the max into SS and Medicare.

Because I have been careful with my money, I have saved for retirement, which hopefully, I will be able to see in the next 8-10 years. I have planned and saved and not bought things specifically so I can retire with some level of comfort - knowing that if things get bad, there is SS, but realizing that by the time I am eligible, it will be even more means tests than it currently is, and that I will most likely not see a nickel for well over $100,000 of pre-tax earnings I have contributed. And you know what, I am OK with that. I want my neighbors fed and clothed, and I want them to have something. I can plan for not receiving SS benefits.

What I cannot plan for is life without health insurance. Mind you, I have never had a serious medical condition, never been admitted to the hospital for an overnight stay (ER visits for sports injuries really don't count, do they), and other than having to lose a few pounds, am in just about perfect health. BUT, without health insurance, one illness, one mistake, on car accident could wipe out everything I have worked for my entire life. The medical delivery system in this country is so broken, that steps need to be made to fix it.

Expanding Medicare would have required people to pay in, and possible an increase in co-pays, but that delivery system generally works. The ACA is the first step in addressing an huge institutional problem. I have not seen any solutions offered by the GOP (if you don't count the ACA, which was a GOP idea) other than status quo - which for many Americans just does not work. If you don't like the ACA, then propose a better solution.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 10/6/13 at 1:58pm

Yeah, how about a Single payer system. That's the best answer.

The ACA has the right intentions and keeping the shell of it is okay, but it needs to be completely retooled.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/6/13 at 2:01pm

Stalin something something.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 10/6/13 at 2:20pm

Namo... You're lumping me in with a certain someone. That's the biggest insult one could receive, I think.