Occupy Broadwayworld- Page 4

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 12:33pm

Great idea. I have to make myself one of those, too.

And you're right about tools, even if he meant it in the terms of genitalia, those are pretty great, too.

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 4:28pm

Just my 2 cents. There is something about protesters complaining about the economy and lack of money who then are sitting around on their expensive laptops and cell phones.

The other thing that bothers me is that I see way too many hipsters from brooklyn(the same hipsters who aren't really from brooklyn anyway) out there protesting. I'm guessing their mommies and daddies stopped sending them money.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 4:41pm

Saw some of the "Zombies" here in DUMBO today....the suits they had tattered were expensive ones!

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 4:49pm

Generally, I think the complaints are not about lack of money - but lack of opportunity.

One has nothing to do with the other.

You don't have to be impoverished, or live without "expensive laptops and cell phones" to be concerned about the direction this country is headed.

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 4:53pm

"Generally, I think the complaints are not about lack of money - but lack of opportunity."

That means the majority of those hipsters down there would actually have to go and apply for jobs, why would they do that when their moms and dads pay for everything?

I've been loving the videos of the hipsters getting rounded up and arrested. It's just a shame that we can't ship these people back out of the city in the first place.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 4:59pm

You have fun loving the videos.

Here's hoping that karma exists.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 5:09pm

Broadwayjoe, every single critique I have seen about the Occupy movement that hasn't come from media personalities with a vested interest in the top 1% always seems basically supportive but there's just this ONE thing and that ONE thing is the reason the person just wants to throw up their hands and dismiss the entire thing as "whining." In your case, it's a generalization and dismissal of "hipsters."

But when I went down to my local Occupy, I saw all sorts of people, a wide range and diversity of ages and races. All sorts of people have all sorts of reasons for taking part. Occupy has initiated a large, adult conversation about this exact moment in time and all sorts of people are contributing to it. There are probably even some who look like some sort of stereotype that rankles you.

But god love them all, whatever their education levels, and their choice of styles, because they're working on consensus as the movement gestates and becomes what it's going to become.

[Bluemoon]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 5:12pm

What the hell is a 'hipster' anyway?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 5:16pm

Most reactionaries can't tell you anything other than they know one when they see one.

[Bluemoon]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 5:23pm

That explains a lot.

Since you invoked the spirit of my heroine, Dorothy Day, thought you'd like this. I use it as my screen saver every November 29.
Updated On: 10/9/11 at 05:23 PM

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 5:29pm

I got this one!

Hipsters are too cool to be fans of anything that has been deemed popular by the general public including restaurants, music, clothes and any form of entertainment. They are attracted to the juxtaposition of the mundane with the absurd as a form of ironic counterculture until enough people become interested to qualify it as popular, then it will forever be referred to as lame. They only quote that which can be categorized as obscure. You can usually spot a hipster by their ability to dress as though they shop at H&M or Urban Outfitters but they will apathetically explain how it is that they were able to do so without shopping at either store. That, and they will always ask your opinion concerning bands that you've never heard of and probably don't exist.

Old school hipsters were anyone who lived life quoting Swingers, but now they're more like a reboot of the Garafalo grunge crowd.

Updated On: 10/10/11 at 05:29 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 5:32pm

I thought of you when I invoked Dorothy Day, Bluemoon.

Updated On: 10/9/11 at 05:32 PM

[Bluemoon]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 5:34pm

"They only quote that which can be categorized as obscure."

That happens a lot around here. I guess BWW really is a microcosm of society! Now if we only knew if thay indulged in cosplay...

Thanks, Matt!

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 5:53pm

Wait, so how can one be both a hipster and in need of a shower? Are they hipsters, hippies, or both? They seem like mutually exclusive ideas.

(Another complaint about the protesters is that they are hippies in need of showers and have created a collective stink).

And Namo, beautiful post about who and what is a part of OWS.

[nygrl232]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 6:07pm

It seems like "smug people" would be a better name for them than hipsters.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 11:33pm

Octopi BroadwayWorld.

[supportivemom]

Posted: 10/9/11 at 11:41pm

^Love it Joey!

[strummergirl]

Posted: 10/10/11 at 12:05am

MisterMatt deserves a special distinction for properly identifying a hipster.

It is not about their attire entirely, and this is where the confusion has people, but their state of mind. Hence how spotting or referencing something deemed hipster (and usually done so as a negative) they are usually wrong. Like hippies with peace signs and tied dye t-shirts and especially the punks (which made Vivienne Westwood happy), hipsters have seen their fashion sense have crossover appeal.

For some reason I do not see hipsters caring about Occupy Wall Street. Their material obsessions (and no not laptops that are hardly some major luxury but a necessity for a lot of people to do their work and everyday tasks) would probably rule them out or they would just apathetically be in the protests but as non-factors. I know a couple of people who took off from class to go down there and from what they tell me it is just standard protest stuff.

I will end by saying that hipsters indeed are not people who appear to be on top of basic hygiene.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/10/11 at 1:59am

I'm not sure how looking at someone can accurately give the observer an accurate read on the person's state of mind, hipster or "hipster".

I also feel as if I am meant to understand, as if it is a common agreed-upon term, what "standard protest stuff" means, exactly. But I don't.

[miss pennywise]

Posted: 10/10/11 at 3:15am

God, I miss you people. (You people know who you are.) And while I'm at it...

POWER to the people! (You people know who they are.)

[strummergirl]

Posted: 10/10/11 at 10:39am

"I also feel as if I am meant to understand, as if it is a common agreed-upon term, what "standard protest stuff" means, exactly. But I don't."

The person said at some points there were blunt slogans that related to the purpose of the protests yelled by one person and repeated by the larger crowds. I have personally been to labor protests and what was described sounded pretty ordinary.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 10/10/11 at 10:59am

Dismissing the Occupy people for what they may or may not look like--or for the most extreme of the handwritten placards some participants may carry--is missing the point entirely.

A populist movement is, by definition, messy. The people who dismissed the tea party as crazy and racist because there were some crazy racists at those rallies were then mystified at the power the tea party had at the polls.

Anyone who dismisses the Occupy movement because of blanket descriptors like "hippies" or "hipsters" is again missing the point.

Don't look at the hygiene. Look to the message.

[MotorTink]

Posted: 10/10/11 at 11:40am

It was announced this morning that my hometown will be having an Occupy rally at our municipal building tonight. My town is about 4 square miles Mayberry like place and the most protest is usually about placing stop signs on streets, so this should be interesting.....

[Gothampc]

Posted: 10/10/11 at 12:16pm

San Francisco always has to get weird. (NSFW)
Link

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/10/11 at 12:43pm

Before I clicked your link, Goth, I was going to reply, "San Francisco starts at weird, they already got there..." then I clicked the link. I recently found out San Francisco has no laws against nudity in public, just against sexual arousal and activity.

As for the article itself, I couldn't get past:

The US military stands for everything the Occupiers oppose; it is after all the force which imposes the evils of capitalism on the nation and the world.

I love how people complain that Occupy has no message, and then proceed to inform others what that message is and why it's bogus. There are retired homeless military people in my local Occupy, there were Marines in one of the NYC marches. I don't know why the writer doesn't see that the US military is the largest and most successful socialist-structured organization in the country.