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[nygrl232]

Posted: 10/11/11 at 2:56am

I took the quote from the article, Namo. The quote was plenty relevant, YWIW.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/11/11 at 3:08am

What does the first quote say to you, and in what way do you think it is relevant?

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/11/11 at 9:46am

Morning all.

Maybe it was posted as sarcasm/satire, intended to elicit a response? If that was the point, then it worked, well done.

And, interesting piece in Mother Jones on middle class protesters:

"As he talks, his voice often wavers with emotion, and his eyes go glassy. At home he often feels alone; here people constantly embrace him. "I've run into socialists, communists, liberals, gutter punks, rastas, thugs, and believe it or not, everybody is getting along," he says. "We have the same common enemy. None of us is scared of terrorists. We are scared of living alone on the streets for the rest of our lives."

"Smith, 36, works as a production machine operator for a New York publisher—a blue-collar job in one of New York's most struggling industries. About a year ago, his employer cut his hours in half, and he hasn't been able to find anything else to fill the gap. He knows that many others are also suffering from the downturn, but none of them are rich. "They say that everything has gotta be spread across the board, but the poor and middle class are bearing everything," he says. "The rich have got to be taxed."



Meet 4 Middle-Class Americans Who've Been Politicized by #OccupyWallStreet Updated On: 10/11/11 at 09:46 AM

[tazber]

Posted: 10/11/11 at 1:09pm

Semi-related:



Bank Transfer Day - 11/05

Updated On: 10/11/11 at 01:09 PM

[Almira]

Posted: 10/11/11 at 1:27pm

Why the Elites Are in Trouble
Monday 10 October 2011
by: Chris Hedges, Truthdig | Op-Ed

http://www.truth-out.org/why-elites-are-trouble/1318252392

Excerpt:

The occupation of Wall Street has formed an alternative community that defies the profit-driven hierarchical structures of corporate capitalism. If the police shut down the encampment in New York tonight, the power elite will still lose, for this vision and structure have been imprinted into the thousands of people who have passed through park, renamed Liberty Plaza by the protesters. The greatest gift the occupation has given us is a blueprint for how to fight back. And this blueprint is being transferred to cities and parks across the country.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/12/11 at 10:41pm

There's so much action happening it's almost impossible to keep up.

Occupy Seoul will be staging the first action in Korea this weekend.

Lech Walesa is flying in to see Occupy Wall Street in person.

1100 cities with Occupy in them.

This only started 26 days ago.

It's a whirl!

Updated On: 10/12/11 at 10:41 PM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/12/11 at 11:08pm

Oooh, it's like End Times!

I tried to send a donation to my local Occupiers via their web site, but it wouldn't take it. I'll try again tomorrow.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/12/11 at 11:35pm

Have you gone to visit them? It's always worth a visit.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 8:30am

Saturday at 5PM they're gonna Occupy Times Square.

http://www.theoccupationparty.com/

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 10:40am

For Occupy Los Angeles, they have had noontime speakers.

Yesterday, Marianne Williamson was one of the speakers at the daily noontime speakers.

Still going strong.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 11:54am

The Occupy Wall Street and associated Occupy groups around the country have been trying to make it clear that there is no "Occupy Party" associated with their actions. The flier about Occupying Times Square refers to them. They have a website, they claim to be a political party, and everybody should cast a wary eye in their direction.

Oh god, I just looked at the flyer again, and it credits The Occupation Party. So there's two groups making things a little murkier. I'm reminded of the New Alliance Party in the '80s.

Updated On: 10/13/11 at 11:54 AM

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 12:36pm

Or the two different versions of "The Wild Party" back in 2000.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 12:42pm

That was super murky.

From the Occupy Wall Street website:

This Site Has Nothing To Do With Us
Posted Oct. 6, 2011, 11:48 a.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

occupyparty.org

We are not a political institution.

Updated On: 10/13/11 at 12:42 PM

[Almira]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 3:45pm

NY Mayor Bloomberg moves to evict OccupyWallStreet

Mike Bloomberg, New York City's billionaire mayor, is taking the first strong step towards evicting #OccupyWallStreet from Zuccotti Plaza, where the occupation has been taking place. Zuccotti Plaza used to be a public park, but was privatized. It is now owned by Brookfield Properties, a company whose board of directors, coincidentally, includes Bloomberg's girlfriend

Full Article:

http://www.americablog.com/2011/10/bloomberg-moves-to-evict.html

[Almira]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 3:55pm

DEFEND OCCUPY WALL STREET

At 7 a.m. tomorrow Mayor Bloomberg will effectively evict the Occupy Wall Street protesters from their home in Zuccotti Park.

We have less than 24 hours to stop it.


We need a national groundswell immediately in defense of the protesters, so we can deliver a massive petition to City Hall and Zuccotti Park tonight.

Sign the petition in defense of the protesters and their First Amendment rights and then spread the word to everyone you know.

A compiled petition with your individual comment will be presented to Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

http://www.civic.moveon.org/defend_ows/

Updated On: 10/13/11 at 03:55 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 4:09pm

Ugh, petitions by groups like MoveOn.org always give me the willies. Like when the HRC (nee HRCF) does it. But maybe that's just me.

Here's what the Occupiers suggest:

Mayor Mike Bloomberg just said he's going to use the police to effectively end "Occupy Wall Street" Friday morning. In a transparent ploy, new rules were passed out this morning prohibiting tarps, sleeping bags and "lying down"—even as temperatures plummet.

The only way we'll get Mayor Bloomberg to change his plan is massive public pressure. Take a moment now and call 212-NEW-YORK (212-639-9675)


In other news, Naomi Klein shared these two uplifting tidbits:

After cops raided #occupysf and tossed their stuff in the dump, garbage workers returned it to the protesters, saying "we r 99 % too"

And in NYC, transit workers say they don't want to drive the paddy wagons taking protestors to jail, because they too are the 99 %

Updated On: 10/13/11 at 04:09 PM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 4:28pm

Namo, I've been afraid I may not get downtown to where our Occupiers are (I don't have a car and I'm currently living in a place that's NOT convenient to catch the limited public transport St Louis has), so that's why I'm gonna just make a donation instead of visiting.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 4:37pm

I read that the protesters are trying to clean up the park themselves so that the pretext is removed.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 4:51pm

I'm sure everything helps, Phyl.

And YWIW, that's something the hippies in the 60s never did: clean up after themselves! I read they plan to link arms while holding brooms when the powers that be show up to clear the park on Friday.

I saw a great picture from Occupy Chicago of three white haired senior citizen ladies carrying signs. Because, you know, this whole thing is just middle class white kids with iPhones who have no idea why they are there.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 5:01pm

Courtesy of a friend on Facebook:

Updated On: 10/13/11 at 05:01 PM

[Q]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 5:14pm

Bill Clinton had this to say on Letterman, and I tend to agree:

"I think that, on balance, this can be a positive thing, but they're going to have to kind of transfer their energies at some point to making some specific suggestions or bringing in people who know more to try to put the country back to work. Because I don't think that many Americans resent the success of people who make a lot of money fairly earned. I think what bothers people is the country has gotten so much more unequal under the last, over the last 30 years, and now that we're in this fix, an enormous number of people have been out of work for more than six months, some of whom can't get interviews because they've been out of work for more than six months, who always worked hard, always paid their taxes, did everything they were supposed to do, and made no contributions to the financial meltdown that caused their current distress. I think that is the heart of what they're saying on Wall Street."

While I appreciate the foundational concept of no central point of power, I do think the message needs to be coalesced - specifically to point to concrete changes that could be made.
Updated On: 10/13/11 at 05:14 PM

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 6:07pm

Apparently Dan Choi is now participating in Occupy LA. Of course, there was a camera involved.
Shoo

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 6:09pm

I have to say I was creeped out by Clinton on Letterman, for the way he sounded (I know, he was sick or whatever, but it was like listening to Alice Ripley on an off night), the half-dead way he looked (I think he might need to supplement his new vegan diet), and the mainstream DNC politico response buried in his discussion of Occupy.

Right now, Occupy Wall Street is less than one month old! And look at the complex discussions it has engendered. Complexity was what was missing in Clinton's response last night. I kept thinking, oh, now we're going to get a lecture on structure and working within the mainstream by the guy who sold NAFTA to the country? How funny it should look so much like a typical lobbyist hierarchy!

Messages of real grassroots movements evolve over time. Right now, Occupy is saying it doesn't need "a leader" because it is a movement of leaders. This is incomprehensible to somebody as invested in the status quo as Clinton is.

On Letterman, we got Clinton 101. First he assured EVERYBODY he felt their pain. Then he fretted that the messages that are being sent aren't messages at all and in fact the message SHOULD be what he says it should be. He also said don't raise taxes on anybody until the economy is better. When he said the part about "Americans not resenting people who make a lot of money fairly earned..." I just wondered how the hell he missed that the entire point of Occupy is to protest the highjacking and gaming of the system by power players enriching themselves while everybody else struggles? Oh, yeah, I know why, because he's a typical "Well, what can you do?" shrugger.

I did however agree with him when he said Lady Gaga is an incredible artist.

[Q]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 6:10pm

I guess the military didn't want him back.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 6:17pm

Ugh, there ARE mental health minimums a person has to meet to be in the military. I seriously thought at the height of Choi Megalomania, "You weren't really thrown out for being gay, were you Dan?"

I keep thinking about this straw man so many people throw out about demands and solutions and how they want simple answers to complex situations and that evolving discussions with huge groups of people don't in some way "count" as working toward that if there isn't a soundbyte and three bullet points to boil it all down.

That's why I think going and being around your local Occupy is such a valuable thing, if you can do it. You get a sense of momentum being there.

Also, this ^^^^

Updated On: 10/13/11 at 06:17 PM