Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern, openly gay church pastor face off on television

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_qDVwr0Jew&eurl=

Oklahoma House Rep. Sally Kern made an Easter Sunday appearance on KFOR-TV's "Flash Point" to face off with an openly gay pastor, elaborating on her recent leaked speech and defending her views.

A spirited theological and political debate ensued between Rep. Kern, host Kevin Ogle, panelists Burns Hargis and Mike Turpen, and Dr. Scott Jones of Oklahoma City's Cathedral of Hope.

"I was speaking to a group of Republicans; grassroots Republicans," Kern explained of the original speech, which gained worldwide attention after posted on the Internet by the Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund, "and I was talking about the homosexual agenda, and how they are out there putting forth--funding very heavily--homosexual and pro-homosexual candidates to run against, and defeat, conservatives across the nation.

"I did talk about what I believe...scientific evidence, health evidence...proves that the homosexual lifestyle is a dangerous lifestyle. And, yes, I did compare it to being more dangerous than terrorism. And my point in doing that, gentlemen, was this: Everybody knows terrorism destroys and tears down, and that was the only analogy I was making is that the homosexual agenda, this lifestyle which is so destructive to individuals, is at the heart trying to tear down what is the bedrock foundation of our society, which is the family and traditional marriage.

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http://pageoneq.com/news/2008/kern_032508.html

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adamgreer - the thing is, what she said IS based on reality as she perceives it, and there are those who share her perspective. Now, whether they should be labled "grassroots Republicans" or not could be debated (although, it could apply to many the Republicans have relied on for the last few election cycles.) And coming from their perspective, it IS ok to not only take that stance, but to speak openly about it. As far as they're concerned, this is nothing short of a battle for the soul of the country.

For me, I have no interest in engaging in discussion about that book. It's been done by many before, and doesn't get at the root of the problem. Should it be used as a foundation for civil law? I personally respond with a resounding NO, and feel that THAT'S the discussion that should be taking place publicly.

The pastor was no match for the Senator, she was much stronger than him.
The host lost me when he said "lifestyle"

Well, I'm not straight, and I'm not Christian.

So where does that put me?

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"So where does that put me?"

Right now, unfortunately, it puts you in with many of us who are left without much of a coherrent and substantial voice on the national level.

Calvin she spoke about in the clip that the man the media claimed was her son (and gay) is not related to her.

Olivia St. John wants us isolated

No relation to Olivia NEWTON John, I hope!

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Or Jill St. John, for that matter. (eta--oops, you beat me)

Actually, Olivia St. John was a character on General Hospital years and years ago.

Updated On: 3/26/08 at 12:12 AM

They seem to be getting bolder in their hate. Let's hope it's just the death rattle before these people disappear forever, to be as marginalized as the Klan.

Yes, Pip, it is. It is also dangerously lowering your life expectancy.

I don't get the "indoctrination" argument either. I am a science teacher, and sexuality, or this "homosexual agenda" has never once come up in class. Interesting...

That 'choice or not' conversation is another one I refuse to have. It shouldn't matter whether it is or not.

Frankly, given the choice of whether to turn straight or not, I'd say no. So in effect, I am choosing to be gay.

And it still shouldn't make any difference. It doesn't justify using it against me or anyone else based on their moral stance derived from their religious choice.

I love that she appeals to Jude 7. She's reading into the Bible what she wants it to say.

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