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#2

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I left out the Marxian bit:

"He bought her a car and sold her old one without asking that is theft and illegal. He bought her a laptop so he could spy on her, that is stalking. The man is a controlling, sick, pervert who thinks he can do whatever he wants because he is rich. Truly, vile."


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#3

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But, a woman wrote the book. Doesn't that soften the blow, so to speak?
#4

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I don't read but it was my understanding that the book is a fantasy and not a dating manual.
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"Steele asked for a vanilla relationship based on love and he was not looking for love instead it was all about him and nothing was about what she wanted."

To paraphrase Blanche DuBois: Ferlinghetti, yes, only Mr. Ferlinghetti could run on so eloquently!
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The movie sucks because of the mediocre book, not because it's offensive. There's nothing wrong with S&M and BDSM. So many people on my facebook were complaining about how this film glorifies Sexism, domination and violence. LOL. They didn't even see the film. Christ, people.

The woman in the article doesn't understand the workings and complicated relationship that S&M entails. People like to be submissive in the bedroom and people like to be dominant. It gets them off. It usually never has ANYTHING to do with gender politics or sexism. It's just play.

Who gives a damn if someone wants to be spanked or whipped, as long as its consensual and no one is doing anything they don't want to do, then I could care less. No one has any right to judge someone based on their bedroom fun.
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Updated On: 2/17/15 at 09:43 AM

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>>> We don’t want to be controlled by men because they are billionaires and can buy us luxury cars and computers.

I don’t know, I think there are a number of women (and men) who would be quite happy to be controlled by billionaire men. Just ask Donald Trump’s wives and girlfriends.

The movie Secretary is a better, and more entertaining, mainstream film about a BDSM relationship.

But 50 Shades does allow women to indulge in a certain type of fantasy that feminism would say is verboten.



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Updated On: 2/17/15 at 10:25 AM

#10

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"The woman in the article doesn't understand the workings and complicated relationship that S&M entails."

Full disclosure: the writer and I have had such a relationship for years.
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Writer Anne Rice posted this piece on feminists and 50 Shades on her FB page:

More on "Fifty Shades of Grey" as the movie makes history tonight and stirs up so much controversy. I'm an ardent feminist. I believe completely in the right of women to their own sexual fantasies. I believe in their right to write and read sexual fantasies, and I will always defend them (and men) against efforts to politicize or sanitize or patrol their sexual fantasies. There is inside of each of us a secret place where our desires rule without interference. That secret place is our imagination. Lecturing women on their fantasies, telling them NOT to like "Fifty Shades" because it includes abuse is just as bad, in my opinion, as telling women that "nice girls" don't imagine being kissed, loved, touched, ravaged, swept off their feet. "Nice girls" can imagine anything they want. And in literature, people can write whatever they want. Men have always enjoyed fantasies of being tied up and whipped by dominatrices. They have always had their erotica. They have always found their way to expensive brothels where professional dominatrices act out such rituals for their pleasure. Are women not equal to men? Don't women have the same rights as men? I'm shocked by all the preaching about "Fifty Shades." I stand up for women, for their freedom, for their rights, for their imaginations, their hearts.
#12

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I'm feeling triggered.
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#13

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Many in the BDSM community are angered because (apparently, as I couldn't get past chapter 2) the relationship in the book is full of fear and control and is not mutually satisfying. She (again, apparently) leaves him after book one because the pain is too much. In book 2, she goes back because she feels like she can't live without him and if pain is what she has to deal with to be with him, so be it. That's not the safe, agreed upon environment of BDSM.

I didn't even read who wrote this article. It makes sense now.
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#14

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Yeah, the book is offensive because Christian Grey is a manipulative, abusive jackanape who forces a younger woman into a BDSM relationship she knows nothing about and gives her no voice in it. The TLDR is that the sub is always in control in a safe S&M partnership but Anastasia has no say in anything in the trilogy.

The real message is just watch Secretary instead. Now there's an S&M/BDSM story with bite.



Updated On: 2/17/15 at 12:45 PM

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It's my understanding that at the end of this inexplicable saga, it's revealed Grey's only into BDSM because of past abuse and the whole thing is pathological. And then they settle into a nice, nonthreatening vanilla sexual relationship.

Which seems like a having your cake and judging it, too, approach.


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Updated On: 2/17/15 at 12:51 PM

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Like all good fanfiction, it ends with a pregnancy and the flash forward is a happy vanilla life with a second pregnancy.
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#17

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The point isn't that people have issues with BDSM. The point is that the relationship as told in the books is not actually BDSM, it's abuse.
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I like Anne Rice's point better. Your point feels like mansplaining, like you're shaming women and telling them what they should and should not think is sexy.

Using the word "abuse" is abusive.



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Whatever the triology's arc, we now live in a culture that firmly believes all experience requires therapeutic resolution, preferably with attendant, politically correct epiphanies. In the spirit of this board, one might say we generally prefer "A Doll's House" over "Medea," i.e. learning the hard lessons then literally slamming the door on those who block us. The self must survive at all cost, wiser, with consciousness raised. If we have one collective fantasy it's that "healthy relationships" are our birthright and some sort of sad everybody-gets-a-ribbon reward for just hanging in. If only, right? Of course, in practice we all embrace self-deception and inadvertently inflict and accept pain (sometimes even intentional cruelty; sorry, Blanche) as a trade-off for being alive. Until the end noted above, these books may well have tapped into a desire to let everyone off the therapeutic hook, men and women. You can enjoy the ride because disregarding all efforts to Feel Better About Yourself is not only allowed, it's embraced.


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Updated On: 2/17/15 at 04:53 PM

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"The real message is just watch Secretary instead. Now there's an S&M/BDSM story with bite. "

Secretary is a fascinating film--but of course someone wanting to watch 50 Shades is not gonna be too happy, IMHO, with watching Secretary instead. I get the impression that the fans of the book and movie aren't really all that interested in an exploration of BDSM anyway except as added window dressing.
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I find the "ZOMFG SEXISM!!!" response to this movie slightly bizarre. Same with the Twilight series. From some people's reactions to them, you'd think they were written by some middle-aged male misogynist.

In fact, both were written by women and became massive worldwide hits read mostly by women. Checkout some of the articles about it on sites like Buzzfeed. It's scary! It's like there are just legions of people angry at men.... For a book that had nothing to do with men, and men the world over generally have absolutely no interest in!
#23

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Bottom line: Anyone who paid to see this movie deserves to be punched in the dick.
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#24

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I loved the Twilight series. It is about love. The actors have chemistry. It was fun! My problem with the film was the actors have no chemistry. The sex scenes are boring. The film is not entertaining and she was abused. She did not ask for this. She was abused.

It is a bad movie.

The Secretary was a better film.

Updated On: 2/17/15 at 06:37 PM

#25

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I want to wrap myself in Auggie's post and cocoon right now.
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