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Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night

Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night

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WhizzerMarvin
#1Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/12/14 at 3:50pm

HOLY SH*T! Bryan Fuller is putting me through the ringer this season. I was screaming like a crazy person at the TV and my jaw dropped during the final five minutes. I firmly believe that Hannibal is one of the best shows on network television.

Obvious SPOILERS if you haven't watched last night yet...


I can't believe Raul is dead, especially since his character is in Silence of the Lambs, but I am holding out hope against all odds that he is alive and Jack and Will are hiding him somewhere.

It was bad enough watching Beverly die a few episodes ago, and I hadn't fully recovered to deal with this.

Raul has been INCREDIBLE all season. That cane! His testimony during Will's trial! The jokes about not wanting to be Hannibal's next meal!! I can't bear to see him part ways with the show. When Hannibal showed up in that plastic suit I was yelling NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOO!! And then the chase in the woods that followed, and of course Miriam shooting him...it was all too much to handle.


Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco. Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!

wonkit
#2Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/12/14 at 5:16pm

Definitely Emmy territory. Which is really saying something, because the entire cast is totally on their game. I think Raul had more screen time last night than Hugh.

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Wynbish
#2Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/12/14 at 7:05pm

Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night


Good.

So good.

Just so good.

I mean, the man survived being disemboweled, so maybe being shot in the face is not too difficult to survive for him.

I have loved Dr. Chilton this season, but I was beginning to suspect that Bryan Fuller would consider him expendable in his artistic vision of this story, regardless of how long he is in the original stories and movies.

As for the season as whole, I wish they had not started it with Jack and Hannibal's fight. So far, the only people who have believed Will are not around (Bedelia. Where you at?) or have died shortly after. Still, you know that Jack will eventually see the truth. For me, instead of it being a "Ooh, I wonder how they get to that." feeling, it gives me a "Okay, when will they get to that?" feeling.

But Raul... Dr. Chilton... So good.

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Wynbish
#3Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/12/14 at 7:07pm

Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night


Side note: I highly suggest looking through the Hannibal tag on tumblr. So many of the fans there are very artistically talented or just funny (at least to me)

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#4Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/12/14 at 8:18pm

Esparza has been killing it this season. The show, as a whole, has been mind bogglingly good.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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strummergirl
#5Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/13/14 at 3:34am

I was so not expecting the strategy to be manipulate Miriam and frame Chilton. As ridiculous and genre-based as the show is, that was a great twist that I did not foresee coming.

This show on a technical level is Grade-A. Shame it is a ratings fiasco but the stuff they pull off as a network show in terms of gore and craft still shocks me.

I forgive the In Media Res opening of Jack vs. Hannibal because, honestly, tipping off fans when renewal seems tenuous at this stage at least gives fans solace on what to expect. Time has gone by though, significantly. Just look at the weather changes.

Raul Esparza has had the time of his life as Chilton, and I do wonder if he is going to survive or we'll get some in your face, 'This is what happened to Beverly' kind of treatment in the cold open next week.

I am assuming Bedelia peacing out has to do with Gillian Anderson's busy schedule.

Updated On: 4/13/14 at 03:34 AM

wonkit
#6Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/13/14 at 7:16am

I am determined to believe that Chilton will survive. Bryan Fuller has tweaked the Hannibal Lecter canon in some clever ways but Chilton is still around for SILENCE OF the LAMBS so that Lecter can continue to disparage him, so I think Chilton survives. It leaves too big a gap in the original arc to kill him off now. On the other hand, I do not know how they will handle the entire story if the series is not renewed for another season. But - Esparza really, really deserves an Emmy nom for some of the most intense characterization on TV for years.

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madbrian
#7Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/13/14 at 9:43am

I hope Esparza wins an Emmy, Tony, Oscar, Grammy, Pulitzer, Peabody, and Nobel. Same for Kelli O'Hara, Megan Hilty, and Stephanie J. Block.


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Kad
#8Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/13/14 at 11:06am

Fuller's been on the record as saying he's using the source material as a "template," which does suggest he's gonna mess with it how he sees fit.


"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."

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#9Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/13/14 at 1:48pm

Apparently there are other networks that if NBC chooses not to renew, they'd take Hannibal over. I think this show would thrive somewhere like Netflix.

This is my new weekly obsession and I think it's the best show on network TV at the moment. It just gets better and better each episode and last Friday's was a shocker.


"Broadway...I'll lick you yet!"
Updated On: 4/13/14 at 01:48 PM

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haterobics
#10Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/13/14 at 7:32pm

Hmm, I stopped watching this show in Season One, since it seemed kinda boring, so all the raves here are making me wonder... did you all like season one as much? Or did the show really find its groove in season two?

I love SOTL, so I was on board for this, but it just wasn't doing it for me. I think I watched... maybe 6-7 episodes before bailing. Would definitely consider re-upping, if it found its stride, many shows don't find it initially...

wonkit
#11Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/13/14 at 10:34pm

You stopped watching just as Season One hit its stride. This is not a series that will give you any neat resolution at the end of each hour. The latest Chilton arc grew over four episodes. The Miriam Lass arc - from last season to this. But trust me - you have to watch very carefully: Bryan Fuller does not do anything unintentionally. Lots of parallels and re-visits, especially visually.

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WhizzerMarvin
#12Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/14/14 at 7:08am

I wasn't a crazy fan of season one; at times I was downright frustrated by what was going on. Season Two is on FIRE though, haha! It's like Season One was just a prelude for all the insanity that is going on this season and it truly is a joy to watch each week.

I am in complete denial that Chilton is dead. As Wynbish pointed out, he made it through disembowelment so what's a little gunshot to the face?

I loved when Raul through down the cane and just started running. Such a nice darkly comedic touch- the man is a phony on every level possible.

Re: the media res opening, I liked it. We needed something thrilling and that scene really delivered. Season One lacked focus and this showed us there was a clear road map to where this season was going.


Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco. Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!

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broadway86
#13Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/14/14 at 10:05am

This show is just so f-ing good. These last few episodes, in particular, have been off the charts. And they could not have picked a better Chilton than Esparza. BUT, and I don't know what will come of this, but Fuller was asked about killing him off so soon, and this was his response...

AVC: Chilton, correct me if I’m wrong, is the first character from the literature that you’ve killed who’s still alive in later books. Do you feel that shakes things up, or do you worry about not having that character to play later?

BF: Frank Serpico survived a bullet to the face.


hmm....

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#14Raul Esparza needs a Guest Star Emmy for Hannibal last night
Posted: 4/14/14 at 10:06am

I loved the writing and the delivery of "I have corpses on my property. You just threw up an ear."

I am, however, starting to think I'd be more than fine he didn't survive, really showing that Fuller is going so off-book, because it brings slightly more excitement and suspense to it. It's like all the life-threatening scenes Legolas had in Desolation of Smaug, where the audience thinks, "Of course he survives. He's in the later books/movies!" Killing Dr. Chilton solidifies to this show's audience that no one is safe in this interpretation of it.

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#15raul esparza needs a guest star emmy for hannibal last night
Posted: 4/14/14 at 10:42am

that episode was brilliance. "you're not a killer, frederick." the look on his face when jack caught him in the snow? and then...my girl.

i am ok with him being dead or alive.


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wonkit
#16raul esparza needs a guest star emmy for hannibal last night
Posted: 4/14/14 at 7:17pm

Fuller is being careful to change things that add to the story rather than detract from it. Classic example:
SPOILER




Making Dr. Bloom a woman so that there could be a sexual relationship with Lechter. The creepiness of Chilton in SILENCE OF THE LAMBS is that he has a unique relationship/dependency with Lechter. Replacing Chilton with just another psychiatrist eliminates exactly the subtle backstory elements that Bryan Fuller is turning into an art form. I guess we will have to wait and see. (Or check to see if Esparza is flying up to Toronto any time soon...)

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haterobics
#17raul esparza needs a guest star emmy for hannibal last night
Posted: 4/14/14 at 10:07pm

Sounds like I should tell Sick Beard to catch me up... thanks for the insights!

wonkit
#18raul esparza needs a guest star emmy for hannibal last night
Posted: 4/15/14 at 2:05pm

I re-watched this episode last night. SPOILERS (again):





Am I the only one who thinks that will Graham looks a little like Chilton, after he gets out of Baltimore Psych. and goes to see Lechter at the end of the episode? Something about the hair, the hint of a beard?


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