Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
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#25Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 2:51pmGoth, your hatred for Cash For Clunkers pretty much sums up why I get infuriated trying to debate with Republicans. YES, getting Americans to buy more efficient cars was a big part of cash For Clunkers- and it did. It also saved the US auto industry- not just the big manufacturing plants, but the companies that manufacture parts for those plants, the dealerships, the finance companies, even the guy who sells sandwiches from a truck outside the Chrysler plant benefited by it. It quite literally turned the balance sheets from red to black at all those places. So many people bought SUVs- why does that constitute failure in your eyes? And isn't selling a lot of cars to China a good thing? Trade imbalance, exports, American workers- any of this ringing a bell? Why not just say it- if Obama or any Democrat has anything to do with it, you're against it. Period.
#26Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 2:59pmBut..it's CHINA! We're selling cars to COMMIES!
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#27Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 3:06pm
Is that it? I really don't get it. If so, Goth, we wouldn't even be talking to China if not for Dick Nixon. I'll give him total credit if it makes you feel better.
Updated On: 1/24/11 at 03:06 PM
#28Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 3:15pmCan anyone who supports the GOP explain how all these cuts to the budget would lead to anything but a second spike in unemployment?
Gothampc
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#29Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 3:51pm
"Can anyone who supports the GOP explain how all these cuts to the budget would lead to anything but a second spike in unemployment?"
We could, but you would twist it around to mean whatever you wanted it to mean.
And what do you mean "second spike"? Unemployment has been an average 10% since Obama took office.
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#30Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 4:34pmNo response to my enumerating all the ways that Cash For Clunkers was a huge boost to the auto industry and the us economy in general?
Gothampc
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#31Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 6:39pm^^^ Because none of what you said is true. I've given you proof in an article that CFC was a wasteful program.
#32Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 6:44pm
"Can anyone who supports the GOP explain how all these cuts to the budget would lead to anything but a second spike in unemployment?"
"We could, but you would twist it around to mean whatever you wanted it to mean."
How is that an answer? If my students answered a test question like that I'd fail them in a heartbeat. This is what Joe means - Republicans NEVER give answers that make any sense or even ANSWER THE QUESTION.
So let's try again. Goth, how will these budget cuts NOT lead to a spike in unemployment? Forget the past. Answer for the future. How will the proposed budget cuts NOT lead to a spike in unemployment?
#33Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 6:45pm
Goth...I'm just gonna say it, your a effing idiot
I just had my uncle (who mind you, is an ECONOMICS TEACHER AT A COLLEGE) if what JoeKv99 is accurate
His response
"Yea, it's pretty damn close"
and when he looked at what you wrote, he quite literally Laughed Out Loud...
So I think I am going to take the word of a man who actually has knowledge in this field over what you say
But let me guess...my uncle is a "liberal" so his knowledge does not count?
Lets see if Goth responds to this.
#34Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 6:59pmWhile he's at it, Goth can tell everyone his stance on DADT...
#35Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 7:00pm
fingerlakessinger, THANK YOU for saying what I've been thinking for years!
Where was Goth during the Bush years? Where was his outrage then? From the surplus the previous administration left to the war in Iraq. I just love these people (like the Tea Party) who were absent during Bush's years and "claim" they're fake outrage has nothing to do with hate or race.
#36Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 7:57pm
^I agree. While I do not fully blame the Bush Administration for the effed up state our country is in (I think years of neglect played a role) he certainly had the upper hand, and he had the power to change it, but he didnt.
Ask a Tea Party supporter this simple question...where were they during the Bush era (error)? I mean, the Tea Bagger's first rally was literally weeks after Obama took office...way before Obama did anything that would constitute their "rage." I'm pretty sure that many (Not all...do not get me wrong) but A LOT of Tea Baggers are just upset that their precious McCain failed and that a OH NO...black man.... took office.
#37Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 8:08pmThe very first Tea Party rally was Tax Day 2009. Obama was in office less than 90 days and they were already blaming him for $#*#. I am convinced if McCain and Palin won they would not have done any better.
#38Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 8:25pmI'm positive that if McCain/Palin did win...we WOULD be in a depression. His ideas were a Bush rip-off...just not as well put together haha
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#39Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 9:44pm
Goth, again let me stress my frustration. Just because you have learned to LINK a story does not mean the story PROVES your argument- could you highlight and repost the parts of that article that you think "prove" cash for clunkers was a failure? You story was about GM selling cars in China, which is a good thing that I can't really connect to Cash For Clunkers except in the most peripheral way.
I really do like engaging people with opposing viewpoints but you have to work on citing sources to prove your points. Otherwise it's like playing tennis without a net.
#40Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 10:11pm
Or playing tennis with this
#41Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 10:53pm
Goth...you are a sad, pathetic person.
You blindly defend a party that goes to extreme lengths to block ANY idea that will take our country forward. I personally think that both parties have their faults, but the GOP is clearly the party of extremists and idiots who are scared of looking outside of their little box they built themselves is.
And the sad thing is, that when you see any point out faults in your precious party, you bring up pointless and often flawed/untrue/misinformed points that prove nothing how desperate you are to try and level the playing field when in truth, there is no hope in leveling it. And when people tear apart your hysterical theories, and confront you on your errors, you run away.
You are a coward. If you want to be part of the Republican party, that is perfectly fine. But dont you dare try and act as if it is the party of the Righteous and that it is others fault for the state our country is in.
Open your eyes, maybe you will see past your delusions.
#42Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/24/11 at 10:55pmIt's hard to talk sense into someone who doesn't believe what they're saying.
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#43Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/25/11 at 10:48am
FLINT, Mich. (AP) — General Motors has a shot at being No. 1 again.
The resurgent automaker reported Monday that its worldwide sales last year came within 30,000 of beating Japanese rival Toyota, which took a big hit because of safety recalls.
GM is hiring, producing more and basking in a better reputation for quality. It expects to sell even more cars and trucks this year, putting it within reach of the title of biggest in the world — an honor it held for 76 years before losing it in 2008.
Regaining the global lead means a lot to workers on the assembly line in Flint, a town devastated by years of auto industry job losses. Just two years ago, they didn't know if their factory or even their company would survive.
Dana Rouse, a union official at the pickup truck factory here, called overtaking Toyota the Heisman Trophy of the auto business.
"We're going to take Toyota on, and the people in Flint are going to be a part of that," he said. "This is the birthplace of General Motors. We kind of take it a little more seriously than maybe some other towns."
GM executives say they are focused on keeping customers happy, not on the title. They remember the company's disastrous recent history, when it sold cars at a loss just to hold on to market share.
"Satisfying and retaining our customers and delivering world-class products is pretty much the fundamental business that we're in," GM North America President Mark Reuss said Monday at the factory. "The rest of it may come, may not."
Now GM is outselling Toyota in fast-growing China, and its U.S. business is bouncing back. To overtake Toyota, it needs a sales increase of half a percentage point, about the number of Chevy Silverado pickup trucks it sells per month in the U.S.
Find the cloud around this silver lining
#44Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/25/11 at 3:19pmFunny how Goth has yet to respond....
#45Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/25/11 at 4:44pmWere you expecting something else?
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#46Republicans Want To Cut All Arts Funding. Again.
Posted: 1/25/11 at 4:51pm
What's REALLY annoying isn't that he won't respond when he's been proven wrong-- it's that he will dredge up THIS EXACT SAME DIS-PROVEN charge somewhere down the road in another discussion. Each incorrect assertion is like a cockroach of lies.
Updated On: 1/25/11 at 04:51 PM
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