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#9

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

I lived with a family for five years with a severely autistic son. We went to Disney twice a year and never waited in much of a line for anything except Finding Nemo, which doesn't have a handicapped entrance and a few that use the Fast Pass entrance. He honestly couldn't wait in the long lines and Disney is his favorite place on the planet. It REALLY sucks that these people are probably going to ruin the practice for those who honestly need it.
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#10

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

I'm sure that Disney will err on the side of caution in continuing the practice, after all there are plenty of folks who genuinely need the line-jumping service. But I can certainly understand the annoyance of seeing those folks on those scooters who are clearly scamming. It may just become one of those necessary annoyances at Disney.

But I gotta say -- anyone who waits 2 1/2 hours for It's A Small World has clearly no sense of how to do Disney.
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#12

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

Dare I even say that I want to know why there are laws to "treat disabled people no differently than if they were not disabled" and then disabled people want handicapped parking and front of the line access, etc?

There is a way to handle this...

Have a family member wait on the line with everyone else and then when that family member reaches the time to board the ride vehicle then the entire family is let through the special line entrance.

Yes - those who abuse the system ruin it for all. Watch the handicapped parking spaces whenever you see one and see just how many people seriously deserve that privilege.
#13

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

Have a family member wait on the line with everyone else and then when that family member reaches the time to board the ride vehicle then the entire family is let through the special line entrance.

And what do you do with the severely disabled child in the meantime or even the person in a wheelchair? The whole point is that the person not have to wait for long periods of time in whatever uncomfortable situation they are in. The wait would be the same, online or waiting outside the ride.


Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!

Updated On: 5/16/13 at 09:25 AM

#15

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

A couple of things...

The queue for Small World has never been two and a half hours, even during Christmas week. I can assure you of that.

I work at Kilimanjaro Safaris and one of our duty posts is adventure guide, which is the greeter standing at the entrance of the attraction. Our queue is completely handicapped acessible, and the handicapped line doesn't split off until just before you go down the ramp (the departure 3 dock is used for handicapped trucks). Anyhow, a sure way to tell the legitimaitely handicapped guests from the ones abusing the system is when you inform the guests of this. The ones buckng the system are the ones who get miffed about being directed into the regular queue because they just want to skip the lines.
#16

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

Brian07663NJ,

You're rather incorrect about something. There is a law called "The Americans with Disabilities Act." Now, I may not be the biggest fan of Disney parks (just not my cup of tea.) But, I'm more than willing to give credit where credit is due, and say that ever since the ADA came into law in 1990, Disney has done a great job of modifying their parks to accomodate those with disabilities.

So you're rather incorrect when saying that allowing disabled people to jump to the front of the line is a privilege. If Disney did not do this, they would be in violation of the ADA.
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#19

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

Yes - thank you SNAFU. Disney is complying to make the bathrooms, sidewalk/street, anywhere steps are located, etc accessible so that disabled people can traverse the location. No kudos to Disney for complying with a law.

Front of the line access is an absolute privilege. That is the smart thing for Disney for both business purposes and humanitarian reasons. Yes I put business purposes in there because if they did not do this they would be perceived as unsympathetic. They do not "have" to make front of the line access available. By doing it (as we agree it is a kind and generous thing for people with disabilities) it makes Disney seem a step above because it is their policy and not a requirement.

However, I have coworkers with severely disabled children. I wish I didn't sit within ear shot of their daily phone conversations because they know how to "work" the disability to the max and at times I doubt it is for the benefit of the disabled child.

I am no longer responding to this further because it is a contentious topic.
#20

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

However, I have coworkers with severely disabled children. I wish I didn't sit within ear shot of their daily phone conversations because they know how to "work" the disability to the max and at times I doubt it is for the benefit of the disabled child.

Did you coworker adopt/foster these children? I only ask because I'm also from NJ and used to work with someone who sounds just like what you're describing. They had a huge camper, fancy cars, a really expensive grill, and on. They were fostering/adopting for special-needs children (whom she pretty much seemed to hate).

The last time I did Disney World was with a wheelchair. A friend of mine broke her foot so severally that she needed surgery before our trip. Since everything was booked/planned we still went. We did get to the front of many lines but not all. I remember that you had to stand in the main line of Space Mountain until you got inside. And in some of the shows the wheelchair area was the very back row. So the kids with us couldn't see a thing.
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#21

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

For every mom that is working the system, there are 50 who don't. Having a special needs child is 10x the work and far more thankless than parenting a typical child. There are very few "perks". When one is available, I would never think less of a parent wanting to take advantage of it.
Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!
#22

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

For every mom that is working the system, there are 50 who don't. Having a special needs child is 10x the work and far more thankless than parenting a typical child. There are very few "perks". When one is available, I would never think less of a parent wanting to take advantage of it.

I know I've mentioned my younger sister who is special needs numerous times on the board. So, I do get what it is like. I am listed in my mother's will as the guardian. When my mother dies my sister will be my responsibility and I'll have the task of caring for her alone. I don't really have much to look forward to as far as having a life of my own. I'm not complaining - it's simply my reality.
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#23

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

Not saying that people wouldn't actually do this, but considering that the only source confirming this is a woman with a book to sell, I'm a bit skeptical. The quotes attributed to the piggish mom seem a little Stephen Glassy

I agree, Calvin. That was my first thought when I read about it yesterday.

I declare this entire story BOGUS until proven otherwise.
#24

Rich NYC Moms Hire Handicapped Disney Tour Guides So Their Kids Can Cut The Lines

The fact is, that people who want to take advantage of anything, will do just that. There seems to be a lack of any social etiquette anymore.

I go to Disneyland quite frequently over the years and have noticed people are just getting meaner and more nasty.

The ones that bring giant, triple wide strollers to the park. And then use them as battering rams.

The overweight slobs gliding around full speed on their blubber crafts who push through crowds. If the flow of the crowds is going one speed, then don't drive the scooters at full speed and yell "Excuse me!!" to everyone

The groups of people who get in the single rider lines because its faster, but then try and talk the cast members into letting them sit together once they get to the ride. Even though they knew they were in the single rider line, they always stand there and lie about it. And then they get nasty when they don't get their way.

I don't doubt this story one bit. I know people who have a handicapped placard and they have a minor problem (like hearing) that wouldn't make standing in line difficult at all. But they whip that thing out every time and asked to be moved to the front of the line!


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Updated On: 5/16/13 at 01:13 PM

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