Sandra Bernhard on turning down "Sex & the City"...

[Pgenre]

Posted: 9/12/09 at 6:01pm

...she was offered Miranda, "When I was offered the role, they were paying everyone $7500 a week. The script ? the original script? Was horrible... I'm gonna play third/fourth fiddle to Sarah Jessica Parker and put up with her ****? It would be hideous to work with her. Ask any of the women that were on that show."

On Stern....

LOL!

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[pushdabutton]

Posted: 9/12/09 at 6:16pm

She also let Howard know how she feels about Kathy Griffin, Cher and Joan Rivers.

[Jane2]

Posted: 9/12/09 at 7:18pm

I like Sandra but she's not as big as she is in her own mind.

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 9/12/09 at 7:50pm

What did she say re Kathy Griffin and Cher?

I'm with you Jane2, while I find Bernhard to be quite funny at times, she thinks way too highly of herself. I can't imagine why she would make that comment about SEX & THE CITY. Also, the Pilot for the show--while not as great as the series came to be--was not as bad as she makes it sound.

[Tag]

Posted: 9/12/09 at 7:52pm

Well she's an idiot.

[BroomstickBoy]

Posted: 9/12/09 at 10:15pm

I'm curious to know what she said about Kathy and Cher.....

Probably ragged on them about plastic surgery.

[insertclevernamehere]

Posted: 9/12/09 at 10:36pm

She thinks Kathy stole her routine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcJjQ7eoIhQ

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/12/09 at 11:42pm

I love Sandra, practically worship her. Have seen her live shows so many times in the past 25 years I have lost count. But, but. Like all of us, she's a human of many contradictions. Unfortunately, she's way more forgiving of her own contradictions (and claims to find them interesting) than she is of the contradictions of others.

I agree that Sex and The City kinda blew for the first several episodes. But it got damn good quick. I remember Sandra trashing the show when it first got hot. Her line was that it was nothing like what real women are like, that it was just gay men's fantasies of what women are like. It might have been good, if in the interest of full disclosure, back then she had said, "Which is why I turned the part down when they offered me Miranda." But she didn't. And then a couple of seasons later, when the show was hot as hell, there she was a premiere party for the show smiling for the cameras and saying how fabulous it is.

I can understand her being bitter about never making it big. (Fave joke from 1985: "Dr. Hang S. Noir works more than I do." May he rest in peace.) And if I had turned down a part in a show that became a phenomenon and not only didn't limp to the finish line like "Roseanne" did (the show Sandy did choose), but instead made half a billion dollars worldwide as a movie AFTER it went off the air, I guess I'd be crunty about Sarah Jessica Parker too. So, Sandy hitched her wagon to the wrong sitcom star. It wasn't as bad as Hudson Hawk.

And it pains me to say this because I paid cash money for the physical CD, but her new record blows.

ETA: Oh god, I just listened to the clip about Kathy Griffin. Oh man, Sandy doesn't have enough self-awareness to get away with saying she's more intellectual than Kathy Griffin.

Updated On: 9/12/09 at 11:42 PM

[Gothampc]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 12:07am

Sandra wishes they had offered her Miranda. There is no way that she would have been believable in that show. Part of the show is about the sex lives of the women, and let's face it, sex with Sandra Bernhard was one of the torture mechanisms they used to get information from terrorists at Gitmo.

[javero]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 12:12am

Sandra who?

[Gothampc]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 12:22am

Maybe they offered Miranda to Sandra Oh and Bernhard thought they were talking about her.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 12:24am

Goth, there's so much that could actually be said about Sandy that's actually grounded in reality and your comment so badly misses the mark. Sandra could have been a good Miranda, different from Nixon but just as lesbian.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 12:41am

FN, you've missed the point. The show already had a dogface in Sarah Jessica Parker. The other three women had to be hot. The show would have failed because nobody is interested in thinking about sex with Sandra Bernhard.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:08am

If you find the quirky looking Cynthia Nixon hot that's your business.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:17am

She brought Irish beauty to the cast.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:26am

Would you greenlight a pilot called "Sex & the City" with this face?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:33am

Like two can't play at that game, you tired old queen.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:33am

[Gothampc]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:38am

Was your picture of Sandra shot by the same photographer that filmed Lucille Ball's Mame? It has that same "vaseline and cheesecloth" fuzziness to it.

[sabrelady]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:40am

Memoirs of a "pretty" lady?

I understand false bravado and self promotion but -sheeet mon-
this sounds like alternative reality to me.

A little Thorazine, Ms Bernhard?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:40am

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And that Cynthia Nixon pic is just a shampoo and unretouched natural glamour. You DO understand what backlighting is?

ETA: It was "Confessions" (years before Madonna), not "Memoirs."

Updated On: 9/13/09 at 01:40 AM

[sabrelady]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:45am

Apologies. It's 2 am, I've jsut come from my neice's Broadway batmitzvah AND I burned the blinzes souffle I was bringing to the brunch today I'm a little distracted.

But u R Right to chastize.

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:48am

Honestly though couldn't it be one of Sandy's show biz mythology schticks. I mean she always spins tales of Hollywood that never happened to her. Do we even know she wasn't fibbing?

"You know you're bitter when you start resenting Linda Hunt. Oh, they found ANOTHER project for her? IM THRILLED!"

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:49am

However, that post = LOL.

Sandra created a style that really works for her and she has a consistent audience for her shows, which are usually terrific. But unfortunately, what David Bowie once said about originality is true in the case of her and her comedic offspring like Kathy Griffin: "It doesn't matter who does something first. What matters is who does it second."

I think her saying Kathy's act is "just" the baser elements of what she herself does at least reveals she knows she has base elements. I wouldn't expect her to know that about herself. She goes way too far by calling her a shrieking harridan. But Sandy knows from going too far.

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 9/13/09 at 1:55am

I adore Kathy, but I think Sandra has a valid point. Kathy Griffin, while very funny, has a very pedestrian comedy set. The last time I saw her live, afterward, I said to a friend, "wow she gets paid alot of money to replicate our lunch table conversations." Kathy is clearly very smart, but she doesn't write comedy. She basically comes out and says "who saw American Idol last night?" Sandra definitely has alot more sophistication.