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#576

What we look for in a dancer

I loved the group number, as well. The best choreography of the entire season. They need to do something about their choreographers, for next year. They let down the dancers, too often, and then we have to hear the judges making excuses for lousy choreography.
#577

What we look for in a dancer

i completely agree with Doodlenyc and lilprima. as usual. Travis and Donyelle were my faves hands down.

Heidi's solo was not impressive, you guys. I don't know how you can say it was. It was extremely simple and she did the same ball-change move over and over for the second half of the solo. and she was very awkward in the final group number. if you get the chance to watch it again, notice how different she looks from the other dancers. and not in a good way.

Benji's solo was the same as all his were, although it was good. he was great in all his numbers, but nothing new came out. if you weren't already voting for him, his performances wouldn't get you to change to him.

Donyelle tied with travis is the solo department. her solo was full of emotion and energy. in my opinion she extremely outshown Heidi in the Broadway routine (although it was a crappy number). Fosse is subtle and sensual. heidi made it bigger than it was supposed to be and was too "out there". The waltz was if-fy. she was amazing in the final number and ESP. the contemporary.

Travis... ah, travis.. my total votes for him last night totaled 315. in an hour and a half. his solo was the epitemy of what a finale solo should be - new, amazing moves and lots of emotion and energy. i saw it. i don't know what solo some of you were watching. and he is not cocky. he is determined to win and knows he has a good chance at it. he was absolutely great in all his numbers.

my picks (not my predictions, my PICKS) are:
Heidi - 4th
Donyelle - 3rd
Benji - 2nd
Travis - 1st


"Love all; Trust a few; Do wrong to none." --William Shakespeare
#578

What we look for in a dancer

I was really disappointed with Heidi and Donyelle's number, but I think that was partly because the choreography was just... dull and uninteresting.

I think it will go like this:

4th Donyelle
3rd Travis
2nd Heidi
1st Benji

But maybe I'm just biased; after all, I placed my top two in the finals.

Oh well. Regardless, I'm much happier with the final four this year than with the previous finals. I think every single one of them deserves to be up there this year. :)
A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read - Mark Twain
#579

What we look for in a dancer

Coma, because you agree with me...I'll agree that the difference between Donyelle and Heidi showed in the terrible fosse number.
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#580

What we look for in a dancer

"I think it will go like this:

4th Donyelle
3rd Travis
2nd Heidi
1st Benji"


me too!! thats exactly what i said!!
#581

What we look for in a dancer

It's probally gonna end up with Benji and Travis as the top two, but I love Heidi too!!
#582

What we look for in a dancer

While I agree that the number was crappy, I think it is a mistake to consider what Tyce choreographed as "Fosse." I don't think that you can judge how well Heidi and Donyelle handled the Fosse style when that is not what they were dancing.

Coma, I wish I had a way to splice together "highlights" from Travis throughout the season. From the first time the top 20 danced, I found his attitude poor. He is a great technical dancer, yes, but he should take a page from the other dancers who are far more humble, or at least appear to be, then he is.
"I am open, and I am willing, For to be hopeless would seem so strange. It dishonors those who go before us, So lift me up to the light of change." Holly Near
#583

What we look for in a dancer

While I agree that what Tyce does is far from "Fosse", I was never a fan of Fosse's work anyway. No versatility. All his numbers, once he found his style, look like all the other ones (I rate his ONCE A YEAR DAY choreography, as the worst in mortion picture history). I never understood why so many dancers adore his work. Give me Michael Kidd, Onna White, Gower Champion, Michael Bennett, Grover Dale, Jerome Robbins, Jack Cole and a host of others, over Fosse, anyday!
#584

What we look for in a dancer

See, I've never gotten that ever from Travis...cause I'd hate that too, DBilly. I think he is as humble as the others, perhaps not as likeable as Benji...he seems shyer.
"Carson has combined his passion for helping children with his love for one of Cincinnati's favorite past times - cornhole - to create a unique and exciting event perfect for a corporate outing, entertaining clients or family fun."

"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS

#585

What we look for in a dancer

"his solo was the epitemy of what a finale solo should be - new, amazing moves and lots of emotion and energy. i saw it. i don't know what solo some of you were watching."

I saw that he was trying to pack in a lot of difficult moves, but I did not see a lot of range or emotion, just energy and advanced movement. It was sort of a grab-bag of moves to show off his technical ability, but I didn't see that was really rooted in anything other than "look what I can do!". All the other soloists were highlighting their predominant trait in a solo that remained grounded in an emotion or style. I saw Ryan just kind of randomly throwing in a bunch of really difficult moves with nothing to tie it all together. It was physically impressive, but performance-wise, left me totally cold.

On the other hand, I didn't really see the poor attitude in Travis. I actually think he showed some genuine surprise at the lavish compliments he received from the judges (especially Mia, who I think really just wants to do him). But then, after watching Blake last season (the purist definition of "attitude queen"), everyone seems humble this time around.

DBillyP - I know what you mean about the Fosse comments. This is the second time Nigel has compared a number to Fosse, when the only thing they have had in common is the music. Neither Big Spender nor Steam Heat this season were close to Fosse in style. Even All That Jazz last season (which was the best "Broadway" number thus far) was closer to Reinking than Fosse, considering they used more of the revival choreography than the original.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#586

What we look for in a dancer

I thought the performances last night were not too exciting even though the judges gave them mostly good reviews. At this point though, I would be happy with any of the four winning the competition since they are all talented. However, Travis seems like he would be the only one who would actually fit in the Celine Dion show.
#587

What we look for in a dancer

Ah well, I am fine being the only one who thinks Travis is a prat.

What we look for in a dancer
"I am open, and I am willing, For to be hopeless would seem so strange. It dishonors those who go before us, So lift me up to the light of change." Holly Near
#588

What we look for in a dancer

I'm jumping on the bandwagon a bit late. I was super busy, so here are my thoughts from last night (beware of the length of this review!):

Heidi & Travis: I didn't really like their disco. It was a bit boring, for me, to watch. I was expecting something like WOW, like a firecracker as Doriana explained. But I was let down. It was cute though, at the most.
Donyelle & Benji: I liked their routine! I mean does it really matter what the judges think anymore? It's America's (or as Cat would say "Amerikar) faovrite dancer. It didn't look that bad. I didn't really even notice the weird hand moments. I liked their first Viennese Waltz more, but not by too much. I loved the song they used.
Heidi's Solo: Very much like her usual solos. Latin dancing, with fast leg movement. I didn't really like the end of her dress. It was very bird-like =P
Benji & Travis: AKA Tranji! I absolutely LOVED it. My 2 favorite guys since the beginning, get to dance together. It was so cute/dorky/nerdy. Very impressive. Loved their moves. I loved the Tranji hats =P Tranji tummy? My heart melted.
Donyelle's Solo: I really liked it. It was like contemporary & a drop of hip-hop. She was wearing like the same outfit that she did at the audition =P
Travis's Solo: Very much like his other solos. Loved all of the flips he does. Impressive. The feel for it was different because of the music. But I still liked it.
Donyelle & Heidi: I'm not really familiar with Sweet Charity or Fosse, so here's my unbiased thoughts. It was sorta boring. A little sassy, but mostly boring. I didn't get the big eyelash thing. They just walked around & did stuff here & there. But that was it. Disappointed since they're the top 2 girls, I was waiting for something a little more impressive.
Benji's Solo: I adore Benji's solo. They're always so much fun. His footwork is good. It's so fast. Just plain adorable.
Donyelle & Travis: I liked it! It was a different cntemporary feel, but it was enjoyable to watch. The laziness of it all wanted me to just go outside & watch the stars go by. Loved it. I also liked Travis's outfit.
Heidi & Benji: I was expecting a little more, but I still loved it. Some of the moves & tricks were awesome. Such amazing chemistry after working together for 17 years! Such a great couple.
My idea of how it will go:

4th Donyelle
3rd Heidi
2nd Travis
1st Benji

Link for an article I stole from vixen (a Benji fangirl. Great stuff though: http://vixen-ontheedge.blogspot.com/)
article w/ an interview w/ the top 4
"Some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, take the moment & making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity."
-Gilda Radner
#589

What we look for in a dancer

Well, I don't think he's a prat, per se, but he does nothing for me. I don't see anything special about his technique or his style.

Even All That Jazz last season (which was the best "Broadway" number thus far) was closer to Reinking than Fosse, considering they used more of the revival choreography than the original.

I never realized there was enough of a difference between the two, to differentiate a style.
#590

What we look for in a dancer

"I never realized there was enough of a difference between the two, to differentiate a style."

It's sort of like a VHS tape. When you make a copy of a copy. The quality starts to deteriorate. Reinking tries to recreate Fosse, but fills in with simpler moves of her own when she cannot remember the original. A friend of mine workshopped the show Fosse with Reinking and clued us in to Reinking's creative process, which relied more on the supernatural than inspirational, which is no big surprise, really. As for her own work, simply watch the television version of Bye Bye Birdie with Vanessa Williams and you can see how uninspired her original creations are. There is nothing interesting happening at all. Nothing organic rises from the material. And most of the time, is just movement without any dancing whatsoever.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#591

What we look for in a dancer

picturetaker, i noticed Donyelle's outfit too! i didn't know how many people would catch that.

yeah, it definitely wasn't Fosse but i could tell thats what he was going for and thats what Nigel compared it too so thats what i called it.

when i said Travis had emotion in his solo, the one thing i really was talking about was how he was pumping up the audience, although i guess some find that to be overconfidence and being a "prat". i found it to be different from his usual solos where he starts on the ground and immediately starts dancing when his music comes on. i found this to be a nice contrast. plus, as a dancer, i could see the concentration and passion in his eyes. or maybe i just like his eyes What we look for in a dancer

i can't get that hip hop outa my head... it was so cute and so good. and that last group number is going on my iPod the second i find it on the internet...
"Love all; Trust a few; Do wrong to none." --William Shakespeare
#592

What we look for in a dancer

"when i said Travis had emotion in his solo, the one thing i really was talking about was how he was pumping up the audience, although i guess some find that to be overconfidence and being a "prat"."

Yes, yes I did. Now, if only he had that same "emotion" when he actually danced ...

What we look for in a dancer

"I am open, and I am willing, For to be hopeless would seem so strange. It dishonors those who go before us, So lift me up to the light of change." Holly Near

Updated On: 8/11/06 at 04:21 PM

#593

What we look for in a dancer

I think I just did the gayest thing I have ever done. I went ahead and bought tickets to the SYTYCD tour for next month. I just love seeing young people dance to tunes other than hip hop.
#594

What we look for in a dancer

Where do they film the show? I swear I saw Heidi walking down the street in NYC today, but I guess I'm not completely positive.

I hope Travis wins.

Updated On: 8/11/06 at 09:17 PM

#595

What we look for in a dancer

I just saw the cutest video of Travis when he was 9 in an old Dr. Pepper commercial on the "Forbidden BWW Video Site." coughyoutubecough.
Anyways, I suppose I'm like the only person in this thread who wants Benji to win.

ihearttheatre: I'm pretty sure they tape in Hollywood, CA.
"Some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, take the moment & making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity."
-Gilda Radner

Updated On: 8/12/06 at 11:11 PM

#596

What we look for in a dancer

wait... isn't the entire show supposed to be live...?
"Love all; Trust a few; Do wrong to none." --William Shakespeare
#597

What we look for in a dancer

I thought the same thing too CB. Well I guess not. I know a possible spoiler...
"Some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, take the moment & making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity."
-Gilda Radner
#598

What we look for in a dancer

for a 2 hour finale you would think it'd be live because of all the hype surrounding it... What we look for in a dancer i'd be sad if it wasn't.

and HOW EFFED UP is this tour thing... they went on sale yesterday for Tampa at noon, so i go on at like 12:15 and the entire show is already sold out!!! then they add another night and that one starts going like crazy and its prob. sold out by now as well!!!

yeah, i was unconsolable. i cried for like an hour. then i got over it. but not completely..
"Love all; Trust a few; Do wrong to none." --William Shakespeare
#599

What we look for in a dancer

I'm pretty upset that I'm gonna miss the finale, but I'll get over it...maybe. I'm taping though, so it's all good.
I tried to get tickets for the tour but they sold out for the place that I could go to. But then they added a nother date, where I live closer to & they go on sale this Saturday What we look for in a dancer
"Some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, take the moment & making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity."
-Gilda Radner
#600

What we look for in a dancer

I have to leave really soon! Have fun on the thread. I'll be back on Friday What we look for in a dancer
"Some stories don't have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Life is about not knowing, having to change, take the moment & making the best of it, without knowing what's going to happen next. Delicious ambiguity."
-Gilda Radner

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