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#1

StimulusPlan But...

Now the White House is backing off saying not to expect results immediately but it will help "eventually"

This sounds like a ringing endorsement from the author of the bill . Looks like even they have their doubts. Looks like almost $ 800 million worth of pork doesn't buy what it used to.

It sort of sound like his pulling out of Iraq once elected.Thank God he kept his promise of closing Gitmo. Wherever will he put them however.That's the rub .


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Updated On: 2/16/09 at 06:24 PM

#2

re: StimulusPlan But...

Everyone has been saying that the economy will take time to get back on track. Yes, even Obama BEFORE he took office. There is no "Magic Fix". It has taken us 12 or more years to get here and it will take time to get us back on track. To expect anything different is foolish.
The stimulus package is put in place to slow and hopefully stop future collapse of the Economy. It is going to be a long rough ride.
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#3

re: StimulusPlan But...

No one claimed it was a magical elixir. EVER. Things cannot be fixed overnight. Or in a month. It's always been said that it could take a full year to BEGIN to see positive changes...or more.


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#4

re: StimulusPlan But...

$800 dollars of pork does not seem too bad in a 800 billion dollar program.

Do you really expect him to say that the economy will turn around on a dime? What I have read is that they are focusing on shovel-ready projects for the infrastructure, which will help ebb the flow of job loss, which is the first step in breaking this downward cycle.
#5

re: StimulusPlan But...

Do we exactly know where this money is going? I mean, I know some people do... but where is most of the money going? I haven't been able to figure that out... how quickly will it get out?
"If it walks like a Parks, if it wobbles like a Parks, then it's definitely fat and nobody loves it." --MA
#6

re: StimulusPlan But...

I think it's important to stop the "bleeding" before worrying abotu healing and I believe the stimulus plan is just that. It an effort to stop the "blood loss" or at least clot it enough to make it possible to start a recovery
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka
#7

re: StimulusPlan But...

I agree with most of the replies here to the OP. One observation I have is that the stimulus package had better help small businesses and promote the development of more small business, or America is toast. I'm talking about the businesses not traded on Wall Street. A lot of problems have developed with the over-consolidaton and centralization of the huge corporations. It's part of the reason why things are where they are today. Economic stimulus should not help only Wall Street. I think we need to see a fracturing of some of these conglomerates and a return to independently, more locally and regionally controlled business.
#8

re: RoxyPain Butt...

Isn't it funny how Roxy was a Kenseyan economist as recently as October and then some time in January he flip flopped? What suddenly changed your economic philosophy, Roxy? Did you reread The Chicago School? Did you pick up a well-read old copy of The Wealth of Nations? What's informing your strongly worded opinions, Mr Roxy?
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#9

re: RoxyPain Butt...

It's what Rush Limbaugh told him to think.
#10

re: RoxyPain Butt...

$ 800 worth of pork

Eight hundred dollars doesn't seem like much at all.
#11

re: RoxyPain Butt...

But it sure buys a lot of bacon!!! Yum!
Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!
#12

re: RoxyPain Butt...

Obama:

My fellow Americans!
May I have your attention, perlease?
Do you wake every morning in shame and despair
To discover your money is found to be nowhere
When it ought to be there?
Well, ladies and gentlemen,
From now on you can waken with ease.
You need never again have a worry or care,
I will show you a miracle marvelous rare,
Gentlemen, you are about to see something wot rose
From the dead!
And it comes from the Fed!

'Twas Obama's
Miracle elixir
That's what did the trick, sir,
True, sir, true.
Was it quick, sir?
Faster than a hick, sir,
Just like an elixir
Ought to do!

How about a dollar, mister?
You'll get it back someday, guaranteed.

Will my package
Stimulate the growth, sir?
You can have my oath, sir
’Tis unique

Wait a minute--
Stimulatin’ i’n’ it?
Have patience, we begin it
Just this week!

Roxy:
Pardon me, ma’am, maybe I'm a dork...

Goth:
They better say babies come from the stork

[Simultaneously:]

Roxy:
Pardon me, sir, am I just a dork

Goth:
Here's the pork. Here's the pork.

Obama:
Try Obama's
Stimulus Elixir
Ain't no tricky dick, sir
Nor duke of earls

Try Obama's
Good for dads and mommas
Sinners and Madonnas
Boys and girls!

Wanna buy a bottle, grumpy?

Roxy:
Where's the torque?

Goth:
What is torque?

Roxy:
Smells like pork

Goth:
Smells like-- phew!

Roxy:
Looks like pork

Goth:
Wouldn’t touch it if I was you, dear

Roxy:
This is pork
Stick a fork

Obama:
Let Obama
Have a little chance, sir

Roxy:
Watch me do a dance sir,--
The Flip and Flop

Obama:
Wait a few weeks
Come on, turn your two cheeks
Maybe just a few tweaks

Goth:
I can't stop!

Updated On: 2/16/09 at 11:48 AM

#13

re: RoxyPain Butt...

Phyllis, that was pure brilliance.
"You know what really makes me mad? When girls think they can sing just because they are on the Disney Channel."
#14

re: RoxyPain Butt...

Roxy will give up after the first couplet.
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#15

re: RoxyPain Butt...

Well, artistic license and all.
#16

re: RoxyPain Butt...

Bravo. I am awestruck.
#17

re: RoxyPain Butt...

Wow! It's as good as the Kringas classic "Another Hundred Posters."
#18

re: RoxyPain Butt...

Bra-VO! That's worth some real pork.
#19

re: RoxyPain Butt...

re: RoxyPain Butt...

Phyl I made you a sandwich. There's still about $797 worth of bacon left if anyone else wants one.

#21

re: RoxyPain Butt...

HEY!
re: RoxyPain Butt...

Those Blocked: SueStorm. N2N Nate. Good riddence to stupid! Rad-Z, shill begone!
#22

re: RoxyPain Butt...

I wonder how many of those who actually voted against the stimulus plan would have done so if their no vote would have actually meant that their state wouldn't receive any of the stimulus money? Or how many states that had legislators who voted no...will refuse the money?

My guess is ZERO.
"Just a Guy. Your feelings are touching. I am gladdened by the thought that you will one day wind up 6 feet under as we all do." - MrRoxy ------ "I do not suggest you walk out the door onto a New York street with your vulnerable child part exposed and not protected..." - Jason Bennett
#23

re: RoxyPain Butt...

And some of those same conservatives who voted against the bill are now crowing about its benefits to their home constituents.

Hypocrites.
#24

re: RoxyPain Butt...

My Republican Congressman sent out a press release saying he couldn't vote for it because of the Billions of dollars that will go to ACORN.

Does anyone want to guess what's wrong with that statement?
No money goes to ACORN
#25

re: RoxyPain Butt...

Lying - really - imagine that.

But, you are from Illinois, so perhaps it is almost expected...

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