The George Zimmerman Trial
The George Zimmerman Trial
#3The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/24/13 at 12:00pmGeorge Zimmerman who?
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Liza's Headband
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
#9The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/24/13 at 12:50pm
Jordan,
I work from home now so I am able to trial watch online, which is a hobby of mine. I have seen a lot of trials over the years and I have to tell you that was one of the messiest openings I have ever seen in such a high profile trial. It baffles me, really. The joke was both insensitive and out of place. The prosecution, on the other hand, nailed it.
#10The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/24/13 at 1:07pmI just watched the Defense's opening… Boy was that uncomfortable! I almost felt embarressed for him!
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Wynbish
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
#11The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/24/13 at 1:08pmI wonder if this could be grounds for a mistrial. Ineffective counsel.
henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#12The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/25/13 at 10:52am
You can't have ineffective counsel based on bad taste. It's hard enough to have legally recognized ineffectiveness based on legal ineffectiveness.
The joke was a horrible mistake, but other than that, how was the opening? It seemed to me the defense made some decent prevues of the evidence. The prosecution seemed to be spot on and off to a very solid start.
Liza's Headband
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
#13The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/25/13 at 11:17amIt was definitely a calculated tactic, henrik. West refused to bring any emotion into his opening - he stuck to the facts. I would guess, however, that he lost a few of the jurors because of that. The opening is your emotional hook or draw. This is your opportunity to begin connecting with each individual. Based only on the live stream I watch, I'd argue that he failed to do that. But only time will tell
morosco
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/10/04
#14The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/25/13 at 11:32am
Oh look! A portrait of Zimmerman made from Skittles!
henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#15The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/25/13 at 11:39amIt was definitely a calculation, with the object of trying to get them to clear the slate of everything they've heard about his client and to judge the case solely on what happens in court. And there was the well-intentioned effort to try to take the sting out of the joke and to prevent the jury from using it against Zimmerman if it misfired. While that may have worked, the joke was bad, ineffective, and in very bad taste, with this sour outcome for the defense: reinforcing counsel's credibility with the jury is probably what's most important in opening statements; that and preventing the only interpretation of the evidence being the one they get from the prosecution. Here, you have defense counsel with what seems, from the little I've seen, to have a very nice manner and rapport with the jury; he really blew an opportunity with something as banal as a knock knock joke, a joke which called attention to, rather than distracted, from the elephant in the room he wanted to shield his client from; the pretrial baggage.
#11The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 1:17pm
This girl's testimony is beyond amazing.
Sir.
Wynbish
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
#12The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 1:23pm
People are being obscenely rude about her on HLN's Facebook, though. Calling her a "Hood rat".
I love the comments that say "Every word she's saying is a lie! I can't even understand her. I can't hear a word she says." Then, how do you know it's a lie?
#13The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 1:25pm
They obviously amped up her microphones today. She has a serious attitude problem but overall, I find her credible.
Sir.
Updated On: 6/27/13 at 01:25 PM
Wynbish
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
#15The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 1:51pmRachel was ordered to stay off social media last night and didn't. Wonder if this is grounds for impeachment.
Wynbish
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
#16The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 1:59pmSo, I'm gonna play Vinnie Politan for a second (he's smexy). Has her testimony helped the case that George was the aggressor or hurt it?
#17The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 2:20pm
I think her words combined with the defense attorney who is increasingly becoming more annoying to everyone including the judge, is helping the prosecution.
Sir.
Updated On: 6/27/13 at 02:20 PM
Wynbish
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/27/12
#18The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 2:24pm
Even the "retarded" comment? Looking at some info about the jurors, they may be people who immediately grow cold to her after that.
Sir.
#19The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 2:27pm
Yes, sir. I forgot about that. But as the jury is instructed, they look at the facts presented. Even though I rolled my eyes when she said that, I don't think the jury will dismiss any of her testimony because of it.
Sir.
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#20The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 2:49pmMy favorite... To the judge numerous times, "Yes Sir -- I mean MA'AM"
#21The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 3:26pmSo do we think "cracker" is a racial epithet or not?
#22The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 3:45pmIt is, but for some reason, I don't find it causes the knee jerk reaction that "n*" does. It is racial epithet lite if you will.
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#24The George Zimmerman Trial
Posted: 6/27/13 at 3:52pm
I'm not sure if that's hilarious or truly sad but I'm laughing.
Did that exchange really take place?
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