I always said they should pay me. :P
Absolutely, Emcee.
I would have liked both Mimi and Roger to have been a little tougher. Maybe there was too much concern about them being "likeable."
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I completely agree that both characters should have had more of an edge to them. I'm not sure if blame lies with the actors or the script - maybe a little of both.
Hm, I haven't listened to Adam's new songs in a long time. *listens*
Emcee - hey, you'd deserve it! Fruit basket and all!
Good point. I would think newer fans (like me) would expect this people to be very passionate but maybe they didn't. Before the movie I read some of the online libretto (is that what you call it?) and I thought everyone was so vibrant and "wow". Even Roger with his anger was captivating.
I think it's harder for me to see flaws in the movie as you all did seeing as how that was my first exposure to Rent. To me the AD fight was perfect, and was just magnified when I saw it on the stage. I have a hard time finding all the faults in the movie which all of you bring up.
OT: Scofield <3
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I've mentioned this before, but for me, the more we talk about it and the more I reflect upon the movie, the more flaws I see. I saw Rent live in the summer of 2005. While I listened to the recording nonstop after seeing the show, I didn't remember too many specifics about the show itself when I first saw the movie. I don't know if I was necessarily blown away by the film when I initially saw it, but I truly enjoyed it and saw a lot less flaws in it than I do today.
Updated On: 9/11/06 at 09:27 PM
This may have been discussed before, I lurk in every so often so I may have missed this, but I was just on Adam-Pascal.com looking up information on Adam's NYC shows, and is Adam truly charging $50 a ticket for his Bay Shore show? That is crazy.
His NYC shows and Queens shows seem quite pricey to me in the $30's as well.
For anyone who has seen Adam perform in NYC before, are these prices the norm for him here? Also, what are the crowds like at his shows in the city? Does he usually sell out? Would it be a bad idea to wait to purchase tickets till closer to the show dates or should I go ahead and get tickets now.
Also, for anyone who has seen him on his college tour or in LA, about how long are his sets?
One of his NYC shows will be my first time seeing him so any help or insight would be great.
Isn't that kind of thing primarily determined by the venue? I mean, Joe's Pub only charged 20 for his concerts (plus drink minimum) and that's right in line with their usual price. I don't know where the line is drawn between venue price range and an individual's asking price.
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I don't know how much of the Bay Shore show's prices are due to Adam's demands or his booking company/individual venues - probably a combination of both. $50 seem outrageous to me as well, but considering the Bay Shore show is almost sold out, quite a few people obviously don't have a problem paying that much to see him.
His sets in LA were about an hour and twenty minutes long. I could probably find a set list, too, if you're curious.
Would it be a bad idea to wait to purchase tickets till closer to the show dates or should I go ahead and get tickets now.
I'd suggest purchasing the tickets now - I mean, why wait? It's unlikely that they're going to lower the price as the date approaches, and the longer you wait, the less of a chance you have of getting great seats.
I can't really help you with the rest of the questions, as it's my first time attending one of his shows myself.
Updated On: 9/11/06 at 10:02 PM
There are definitely flaws, but I still find the movie very lovable. I'll probably never be able to recreate the experience of the first time I saw it, which was at the Symphony Space benefit screening followed by a Q&A with Adam, Anthony, Wilson and Tracie. The crowd was incredibly into it, which always makes a difference, and the Q&A was hysterical.
ETA: Whoops, missed all those interim posts. The venue does seem to have quite an influence. Some of the college shows last spring were free or for a nominal charge. We also don't know if some of the NY shows will have a band.
The Metropolitan Room is not selling tickets in advance, but taking reservations. There's a phone number on their website. The Queens show already has most of the seats in the front taken, so the sooner the better getting tickets there.
Updated On: 9/11/06 at 10:09 PM
Aren't these shows kinda new? I mean Adam hasn't done many show.s The only one I can think of is the one at Joe's Pub. I remember that in a video on Broadway.com he mentioned that it was the first time performing his solo work in front of an audience. That was in 2004. More recently, the rest of his shows have been college shows, which were free (for the public & students) or around $10.
I don't think his set will be more than 2 hours. I've heard that his set is usually 1 hour or something like that. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. It might change though, like he wants to perform more or less songs.
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Adam's actually been playing concerts of his own solo work since 2001. The shows at Joe's Pub definitely weren't Adam's first solo shows.
Updated On: 9/11/06 at 10:14 PM
He's been doing this sort of thing around for years; with his old bands, and when Model Prisoner was released. Lots of small venues in the city. The sets are usually like an hour ten.
I guess he was just talking about Civilian back then.
Well I'm off to bed! School & classes are such a drag.
Right, Angela, it was the first time he played Civilian with his band. Have a good night!
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I hope the Metropolitan Room crowd isn't overly screamy. I'm just praying that parents will keep the more obnoxious girls home, considering the show starts at 10:30 and school is the next day. The venue is small; I don't want my ears killed.
The first Joe's Pub show wasn't particularly screamy, but I gather the second was more so. I'm sure it will help that it's a late show on a school night.
The Queens Theater has changed it's website. There's now a blurb about Adam with a link to A-P.com.
Queens Theater site
Updated On: 9/11/06 at 10:46 PM
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Yay Adam. Now, people, go buy those Queens tickets. I want to be part of a GOOD crowd!
From what I know about concert bookings for pop acts, two of the biggest factors for determining ticket prices are the booking fee and the size of the venue. The venue needs to earn enough in ticket revenue and other purchases by concertgoers (beverages, parking, etc.) to pay the booking fee and have some profit left over. Generally, the fewer people a venue can hold, the more it will charge per ticket because it has fewer tickets to sell to make that money. With some larger venues (keep in mind that I'm talking about arenas with seating capacitys in the 5 digits here), they may prefer sometimes to sell below capacity at prices higher than what they would need to charge to sell out the place.
Operating under the assumption that Adam's booking fee is the same for each venue, I would guess that the Bayshore venue is smaller than the other places where he's doing shows in the NY area and/or doesn't have the opportunity to make money from drink sales or parking or whatever, and that's why there's a higher price per ticket.
I'm coming back to Jersey around one of his concerts, I'm so tempted to go...hehe. Too bad i dont' have a car to drive to Queens. =)
I've read a couple of the posts about movie vs. the musical of roger and mimi. I thnk overall i liked Adam's portrayl of Roger in the movie. I liked seeing him in the movie sort of melancholy and sad and remorseful and regretful of not only screwing up by taking drugs but with the whole April issue.
I agree that it in the movie the scene maybe could've been different between adam/rosario...... I think they possibly didn't want to make that scene to over the top.
In the past watching the stage version, it seems sometimes that actors will play Roger a little too over the top in the anger department, especially in Another Day to the point where I was wondering what the hell Mimi was still doing in the apartment.
I think maybe Columbus wanted to convey that roger isn't mad at Mim per say, but is scared of falling in love and all of the uncertainty etc.
I think it's very powerful when Roger's fear manifests itself as irrational anger, though.
Hi BG - what you say makes sense, and makes me wonder all the more if the Bay Shore concert is one with a band, since it's actually smaller than the Queens Theater.
ETA: arapp, if you can get a train into Penn Station, it would be easy to get to the Queens Theater on the subway.
Updated On: 9/11/06 at 11:23 PM
Wow. I was linked. I feel special. :) Though the site isn't really a fan club. :P
This morning Will I (movie version) started playing on my iPod. I really love Adam's voice in this song, especially on the first "dignity" and "care".
I really liked it that you can hear Adam in that song in the movie recording. Although it was different from the show, it was a good moment when Roger walked into the Life Support meeting.
There doesn't really seem to be a pattern for the pricing for Adam's shows. The LA shows were about $32 when I bought my ticket, but then they moved up into the $40s.
Time to go to science... later, everyone.
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