The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, part two — Page 43

#1051

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 5:51pm

aw, I missed 1000.

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#1052

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 5:58pm

so did i. it's all good emcee!

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#1053

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:20pm

Yes, I was very surprised to look and see that 1000 was long gone.

I posted on the RENT hate thread and am curious what you all will think...

Also got a smile out of everyone begging Adam to wear a loincloth on the Tarzan thread.

#1054

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:21pm

I don't even want to look at that thread. I just don't feel like reading the idiocy that I know is going to be on that thread... coming from both sides.

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#1055

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:28pm

It's not as bad as you might expect, I think. Nia contributed some thoughtful remarks, and so far no one's gotten particularly nasty, aside from a couple of comments.

#1056

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:29pm

Maybe I'll check it out. I feel like I'm too late to the game to have my comments matter or be read, and I'm too tired to think it through enough... all I'd give is sentimentality. I will read it, though... after I nap.

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#1057

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:31pm

I read the first page of that thread (I didn't even know it existed until you mentioned it), and got upset and couldn't read anymore. It's so upsetting when "hate" and "RENT" go together.

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#1058

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:32pm

It's not everyone's cup of tea, and I'm fine with that, but in general terms, I hate when people are so quick to shoot down a show that they know if VERY important to a lot of people.

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Updated On: 4/17/05 at 06:32 PM

#1059

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:35pm

I agree with you completely!! I mean, why do you have to start a thread bashing a show that means the world to people? That's why those "I hate Wicked" or "I hate Bklyn" threads made me sick... if it gets people interested in theatre, or helps them find something within themselves, then more power to them!! And just because this one particular person had a bad experience at RENT, and doesn't particularly care for it, he/she shouldn't go around bashing it, after only seeing it ONCE, with a not-so-great cast.

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#1060

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:38pm

Sorry it upset you so much, but the way I look at it, anything really popular is going to attract its share of people who "hate" it, partly because their expectations get raised so high. When it turns out to be something they don't like, they can get really resentful. And of course, no piece of theater is going to be liked by everybody.

Anyway, I mentioned it because I figured I gotten in so late in the game that there might not be any replies.

#1061

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:38pm

I hate Brooklyn, and I don't really have an issue expressing my dislike for it, but I don't exactly go around starting threads for the sole purpose of congregating other people who hate it. I just feel like if you hate something, hate it respecftully, and understand that some people like it. For example, there's a poster on this board, who, EVERY time someone posts ANYTHING whatsoever about Rent, he has to jump in and be like "I hate Rent. It didn't do anything for me." What's the point?

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#1062

Why can't we be friends?

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:39pm

Here here, BroadwayDiva!

While I certainly respect any well-thought-out opinion, even if it's negative towards a show I adore (read: RENT) it saddens me to see all of the "I hate ______!" and "______ sucks!" threads around here.

Where is the love?

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#1063

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:40pm

I definetly agree, Emcee.

Chloe, thanks. I'm not sure if what I said made any sense or not, I'm really rather frazzeled.

#1064

Why can't we be friends?

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:43pm

It's totally okay if you hate a show, just don't clog the boards with a million threads dedicated to hating the show, or make pointless posts bashing the show, like a lot of people on the board have been doing lately.

I think I know who you're talking about, Emcee, and I totally agree that this person has no point in posting about RENT if it's just to completely shoot down the show. That's just not cool.

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#1065

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:44pm

Certainly it made sense, Nia.

I agree about the negativity too. The internet seems to have brought out some bad stuff in people that way. Opinions they'd be too polite to express in front of others they know, they feel free to say on a message board.

#1066

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:46pm

*spreads positive vibes*

Chloe, while that's true, the net can also bring out a better side of some people because they can read a post before submitting it and rethink what they're saying. Unfourtunately, a lot of people don't do that.

#1067

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:50pm

Exactly, Diva. I feel like maybe he was just trying to get the RENTheads riled up.... which is probably what happened.

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#1068

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:50pm

*enjoys positivity*

Oh, don't get me wrong, I LOVE the internet. But it does have that one drawback.

Sometimes I feel like I spend half my time erasing what I wrote and starting over. I guess that's why I'm behind a lot of the time.

#1069

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:52pm

It can also bring out the worst side of people, because when someone isn't there face-to-face, you don't feel the need to censor what you say as much. While I don't think my personality changes, I think I express things in writing in a way that I never would in person.

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#1070

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:56pm

I make more sense in type, I think. I suck at speaking coherently.

Emcee, are you sure that's a bad thing?

#1071

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 6:57pm

Same here, Emcee. And same here, Nia!

(responding one post back) I think the RENTheads did pretty well for themselves. It was the haters who came off badly at times. It's probably more complicated than that, but that's my general feeling. Margo wrote a very long, well-written post about how he (?) and his friends couldn't get into it because it wasn't a true reflection of the East Village they knew, or its music, and that was what I responded to.

#1072

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 7:03pm

I don't think it's bad, necessarily. I'm saying that I don't like it particularly about myself, but I feel like when you're having a productive debate, at least, it's important to be honest. Sometimes I just dislike my honesty, especially when I get into board fights, related to things that are very important to me.

... think about Raul.

Chloe - Margo is a male, yes. He's so eloquent, and has given great thoughts on RENT before. It's understandable, I think, but I don't think I've ever seen him make a disparraging remark, which is very admirable.

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#1073

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 7:05pm

Margo is a wonderfully respectful and well-informed poster. I had a similar PM conversation with him about Rent quite a while back and while he didn't care for it at all; he always explained himself and never stomped on the show.

Emcee, some of your board fights get bad because you're arguing with morons. Ignore the stupid people, they are not worth the effort.

Updated On: 4/17/05 at 07:05 PM

#1074

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 7:06pm

Yes, but some of those people have been anything but stupid.

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#1075

Raúl Esparza should have a hot as hell naval ring

Posted: 4/17/05 at 7:12pm

I think I know what you're referring to about Raúl, but I didn't see that whole thing. I try to avoid fights, because they seem to devolve into name-calling at the drop of a hat, but maybe I'm just a sissy.