The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
#1The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/19/10 at 5:17pm
I really wish he had made this a nationally televised speech.
http://vimeo.com/12682048
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#2The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/20/10 at 2:23amWow...I thought this might spark conversation.
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#2The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/20/10 at 9:59am
I'm starting to have Republican Fatigue. I'm just so sick of everything coming from the party being so negative and so contrary to any sort of real progress for the country.
It's just so childish.
Granted, I'm not a history expert, but it seems like the country is nearly as divided as it was in the Civil War. The viewpoints of the left and the right are so far away from each other that it seems there is no middle ground any more.
If Obama had acted as Bush did, pushing through his agenda all those in the way be damned, we would be in a second Civil War. Obama is actually trying to work WITH the opposing party instead of in spite of them as the previous administration did, and as a result nothing is getting done. The Repubs, of course, translate THAT into him being a failed president.
The cycle will continue until the Democrats finally stand up on their own and take matters into their own hands rather, I don't know, trying to work with EVERYONE in the country. Crazy idea, huh?
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#3The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/20/10 at 10:14amThe GOP has taken advantage of the inability of the Dems to govern. Harry Reid is an ineffective majority leader, which has forced the Dems to have to grovel for GOP votes in the Senate. They've watered down their bills to appease the GOP, leaving them virtually useless.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."
-- Thomas Jefferson
#4The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/20/10 at 3:58pmThat, and they hate this president. I think they will do anything to see him fail. It seems that they don't even care about their behavior. Calling him a liar during a nationally televised speech and apologizing to BP for the "shakedown". It is just blatant hatred.
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Gothampc
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#5The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 4:00pmSince this President was inaugurated he has enjoyed a Democrat majority in Congress. It's not the GOP that's stopping him.
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#6The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 4:04pm
Funny, since majority rule does not dictate the workings of the Senate. If a simple majority could get things done, we would not be having this discussion.
#7The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 4:12pmAnd the Democrats don't have the 60 (60 isn't it?) votes to pass things. I would assume that there are also a few Dems helping to block things but the Republicans are pretty much going against him in full force.
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Gothampc
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#8The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 4:20pm
Currently in the Senate, the Democrats have 57 members. There are 2 Independents who vote most of the time with the Democrats. That equals 59. You mean to tell me that Obama can't get 1 vote?
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#9The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 4:25pmGoth, you are so cute when you are being intentionally obtuse.
Gothampc
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#10The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 4:36pmSo are you YWIW! Blame the GOP when they have control, blame the GOP when they don't have control. It's all you liberals can do is blame everyone else. If Obama had 100 Democrats in the Senate, you'd still be blaming the GOP.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#11The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 4:52pm
No, I am pretty sure at that point there would not be a filibuster threat for every single piece of legislation proposed by the dems (including those previously sponsored by GOP members).
Obama made a huge tactical mistake in trying to govern in a bipartisan manner - despite claims to the contrary, he has given on major progressive policy points in an attempt to build consensus with the GOP - the GOP never had the intention of meeting him half way and let Obama negotiate against himself.
What has been clear is that the filibuster has been used by the GOP in ways never contemplated. If the Dems had tried to pull half of what the GOP has done, they would have been called traitors, enemies of the state, and worse. Like it or not, there is a clear double standard. Dissent from the left is viewed as UnAmerican, while dissent from the right is viewed as patriotic.
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#12The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 5:08pm
I just don't really know what sort of conversation can be had. Obama will spend the remaining two and a half years of presidency trying to be bipartisan and getting nowhere. a Republicans will filibuster everything until they get control back of one or all branches of government. Then they will repeal all the already watered down things Obama did manage to achieve.
The only people worn down by the end of this term will be those who voted for Obama.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
#13The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 5:10pm
I guess you want Republicans to get behind the Keep Fathers in their Marriage Fund?
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Phyllis Rogers Stone
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#14The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 5:23pmIt doesn't matter what it is, Republicans won't get behind anything he does.
#15The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 6:38pm
Actually, no, because while the idea is well-intentioned, I think the faith-based initiatives have no role in domestic federal policy.
But, more curious, why do you support absentee fathers? Why are you apparently criticizing something that supports traditional families? Since clearly the GOP thinks gays can't be good parents, you would think they would be interested in trying to maintain traditional families wherever possible.
Updated On: 6/21/10 at 06:38 PM
TheatreDiva90016
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#16The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 6:48pm
He supports them because Obama is against them.
That's why.
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#17The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 8:27pm
There's no rational thought behind most Republican opinion. It's a knee-jerk reaction in most cases -- the Dems want it, it must be bad, I want the opposite, anything else will bring down civilization as we know it.
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Gothampc
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#18The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 10:17pm
"But, more curious, why do you support absentee fathers?"
There you go again jumping to far out conclusions.
I do not support absentee fathers. I also don't support any social programs that Democrats cook up because they always go wrong. Johnson's War on Poverty? 45 years, and billions of dollars later, and it still hasn't solved any problems. Social Security? Nice idea, but now it's bankrupt.
My concern is that this will become like welfare, another way for people to grab money and cheat their way through life rather than be held responsible for the choices they make. It won't help anyone, it will be just a waste of money.
As par the course, all the bleeding hearts on this board will begin the attacks, so let the flaming begin.
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#19The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 10:20pmTranslation - if there's nothing in it for a me or most white people, it's bad!
#20The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hill
Posted: 6/21/10 at 11:07pm
Yep, pretty much. Goth wants to make sure no one gets help to better themselves.
I wonder how he feels about No Child Left Behind, Abstinence Only Education, Farm Subsidies, Oil and Gas Subsidies, Faith-Based Initiatives, and other GOP sponsored programs that advance their social agenda.
philly03
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/07
#21The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hi
Posted: 6/21/10 at 11:58pm
"So are you YWIW! Blame the GOP when they have control, blame the GOP when they don't have control. It's all you liberals can do is blame everyone else. If Obama had 100 Democrats in the Senate, you'd still be blaming the GOP."
Well said Goth. The Democrats did the same thing to the Republicans while Bush was in office, yet they still managed to do a few things.
IMO Obama is trying to appease all his democrat supporters to cover up anything wrong (& very slow) he's been doing with words like this... He's just frustrated that the Republicans won't give in to him... but again, it was vice versa four years ago!
#22The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hi
Posted: 6/22/10 at 12:24am
The Dems did not do it to the extent the GOP has. Since the Dems took over the Congress in 2006 the use has gone up dramatically.
The filibuster was supposed to be the exceptional, rather than the standard tool in opposing legislative initiatives of the opposing party.
I will admit that Bush was far better than Obama at using the "bully" part of the bully pulpit.
But, eventually, the Dems will be in the minority (all things happen in cycles) and then I will laugh when the GOP screams at the Dems for adopting the exact tactics they have been using these past 4 years.
Obama's biggest mistake was trying to reach out to the GOP.
Updated On: 6/22/10 at 12:24 AM
#23The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hi
Posted: 6/22/10 at 8:02amYWiW - you're exactly right, but can you IMAGINE the reaction from the GOP if Obama acted the way Bush did - just pushing everythign through, the opposing party be damned? I can hear the guns firing already!
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philly03
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#24The President addresses the lack of cooperation among Republicans on the Hi
Posted: 6/22/10 at 2:02pmI don't believe Bush did anything anywhere near to the extent of the reform of the Health care system to make it Universal Healthcare ... ideas like this shouldn't pass through right away anyway, there's so many effects of it that need to be mapped out it's not so simple.
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