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[jmaclover]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:12am

yeah, disclosure.

Well, the files aren't allowed because of patient-doctor confidentiality <--EDIT: I remembered!

If the defendent does claim insanity, the court gives him a psychiatric test. As far as school records - for a learning disability? That's usually obvious - they have tests for that.

Basically, the "insanity" plea is the easiest way for a defendent to win and the hardest thing to prove. You just need good lawyers and to let the jury decide...

In my opinion, the court, lawyers, and defendent should sit down together and look over the files. If anything proves (or disproves) sanity, etc. the document should be used.

Too many ppl have gotten off because they pleaded insanity and only had to see a psychiatrist. Maybe that's why, if you commit murder, and plea insanity, they put you in a home, instead of letting you go free...

Updated On: 12/9/04 at 02:12 AM

[BEKA531]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:13am

i'm tiiirreedd.

i really think i'm delirious at this point.

[camerangel]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:13am

mmm basketball players in speedos.. I'm such a sucker for tall, hot men..

Tiff you are good at this whole devils advocate role.. Unfortunately no matter what the patient discloses, unless they are planning something illegal is covered by patient dr confidentiality..

Beka, unfortunately as you get tired your productivity will dwindle and it will take you longer to do.. Good luck

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:14am

okay, speaking of defense lawyers getting a lot of leway, when it comes to accessing personal records, they actually get a lot less leway than the Crown (Canada's equivalent of the DA). I mean, all the Crown has to do to obtain anyone's personal records are obtain a search warrant or subpoena. However, the defense has to go through a much more stringent system that prove that there's a "likely probative value" in producing the records. This was understandable, so the defense couldn't go on a "fishing expedition" and pull out any means possible to discredit the complainant, but doesn't this give the Crown an unfair advantage if the accused is presumed innocent?

[BEKA531]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:14am

i don't think ive ever had an all nighter before. i usually get 1 hour of sleep.

[BEKA531]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:15am

ok, i'm leaving again. will anyone still be on at, say, 5?

[VivaBohemia]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:16am

It has to do with Law and Order I think...which I missed tonight because I watched Lost and then filled out Holiday cards :)

[camerangel]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:16am

Night beka

[JoAnne1]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:17am

take 3

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:17am

'night Beka.

And cam, I can do devil's advocate because I'm a libra (the scales). It's in my blood. People call me indecisive.

[jmaclover]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:18am

I think that it is rarer that the plaintiff is lying, than the defendent. Especially in rape. It's hard to say depending on the type of case...

[jmaclover]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:18am

Aww...

Lucky number 3?

[JoAnne1]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:19am

make that take 4


hey I'M A LIBRA TOO!! we make GREAT lawyers cause we're always trying to balance everything and make it "fair"

[VivaBohemia]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:19am

Yeah, us Libras re a barrel of fun, ain't we?

<~ September 26th :)

Updated On: 12/9/04 at 02:19 AM

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:21am

Libra power! I do love being a Libra. We're so fair and like beautiful things and romance. It suits me.

When are your guys's birthdays?

[camerangel]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:21am

Wow I'm surrounded by Libras.. I'm a Sag.. I can tend to be brutally honest.. I try not to be though..

[nobizlikeshobiz]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:21am

Hey everyone!

[jmaclover]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:21am

Awww, I;m a Capricorn...

[jmaclover]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:22am

Im with you camzz

[JoAnne1]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:23am

tiff-
the crown seems to get over as much as the DA's office

warrants are not - they can tear all the way into your life when they're ready...

and who's really "presumed innocent" anymore?

[jmaclover]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:23am

MJ?












No.

[Type_A_Tiff]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:24am

Nothing wrong with brutal honesty, Cam! (Did you get my emails, btw?)

Fredi, see, it's not fair, is it? I have a feeling that if I say the differing standards of the crown and defense are unfair, I'm going to be torn apart by my prof. (I'm writing this in a court about gender in the legal system and profession.)

[JoAnne1]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:25am

Oct 2nd

with Sag rising

get along great with Sag's! like my mom whose bday is TODAY
12/9 - she's 84!!!! whooo-hooo

[camerangel]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:25am

oo Whens your bday jmac? it's coming up..

you're right Fredi, no one is pressumed innocent anymore..

Honestly what is this world coming to? Am I the only one that gets physically ill watching the news?

[jmaclover]

Posted: 12/9/04 at 2:26am

Well, tell ur "prof" you spoke to a lawyer....

What if you said the amount that each party gets to see is unfair but the crown should get more....meaning the defense should get more but the crown should still have free access...