The Trump Cabal — Page 2

To say Obama is an anti-Semite is pretty unnecessary. He hasn't harassed Jews personally has he? No. He's just against a single state solution. Which I think any sane person would agree with. The people of Palestine have been through enough torture and in humanity. If we are going to get anywhere near peace and prosperity in the Middle East, Israel needs to give up Palestine.

Petralicious said: "I challenge you to find where i ever said he anti semite. I do not believe he is. I believe he has a good heart. He is just anti Israel and pro Palestine. Big difference



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Sorry it seems I'm replying to you, rather I'm commenting on the article you provided.

My solution is a three-state solution: Israel, Palestine, and Gaza. In conjunction with secure borders and a permanent cessation of all terrorism, the world unites to strengthen the economic opportunities in all three states: Israel with its tech proficiency, Palestine becomes a preeminent tourist destination for ALL the world's religions, and Gaza becomes a Mediterranean seaside vacation paradise to rival the French Riviera and the Arabian Gulf states.

By changing the economies from war economies to year-round tourism economies, the peoples of Israel, Palestine and Gaza would experience an unprecedented economic growth and the stability that comes with peace.

Future generations would call this new Golden Age "The Pax PalJoeyiana."

kdogg36 said: "Before committing to a two-state solution, I think we need to know what kind of state we'd get. Would the new Palestinian state be a liberal democracy where the rights of everyone - including women and LGBT people - are protected equally?

I'm not going to lie - I strongly suspect that a gay Palestinian is better off as a second-class Israeli citizen than he would be as a citizen of a new Palestinian state.



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I guess that's something the people of Palestine should vote on.

Surely Broadway Concierge is Petra? You can't read one without the other popping up agreeing.

Oh, boo-hoo, adamgreer. Want to cry me a river while you're at it, too, you broken record? I am relentlessly and unabashedly unafraid to admit my excitement for a monumentally more outrightly pro-Israel President than the foreign relations disaster that has been Barack Obama. Your pandering and condescension only emboldens my enthusiasm. So keep it coming, dude.

And, no, songanddanceman2, I am not Petralicious, but you may want to expand your horizons and explore the world some more if two people who politically lean conservative in one place is too much for you to handle.

wonderfulwizard11 said: "Right- Donald Trump, who hasn't even been sworn in as President, has literally called for us to have a nuclear arms race, but Barack Obama is the foreign policy disaster because he didn't follow Israel's bidding to the letter.



Why stop there? The "President elect" also ignited an international incident on twitter with his new China policy (who are already laughing at us), and he's been cozying up to Putin (who interfered in the election- something Concierge refuses to admit) from the getgo. And this is all before he's even been sworn in!

Also, the quotation marks around President-elect in your last post are cute, adamgreer. Keep pretending like you don't live in a world where real things happen and where legitimate power is indeed transferred to those who emerge victorious in elections. Hope your safe space is nice and cozy.

Yes, non-proliferation sounds great, and it looked to be quite a good step in the immediate aftermath of the Cold War—which was, however, now over 25 years ago. The threats have changed. North Korea ain't stopping anytime soon. Conflict in the South China Sea poses increasing danger. Russia in eastern Europe and the Middle East, obviously. We're not just entering an era of nuclear danger equal to and/or greater than what we experienced during the Cold War—we're already here. And somehow, President Obama's idiotic logic has been to keep backtracking and ignore the modernization needs of our nuclear triad. It's simply unsustainable. Global Zero is a pipe dream. I know I'll at least feel safer under a President who's willing to face reality and deal with threats (both on our behalf and on behalf of our allies), as opposed to one who's content with theory, ideology, and accepting inferiority. It's our enemies who have already made moves—not Trump.

Really? Telling somebody to live in the real world is condescending—but calling somebody a child for holding the political views they do isn't? Calling out somebody who's questioning the legitimacy of a peaceful power transition is condescending—but speaking down to me as homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic, and white supremacist when I haven't said or written a single world in support of any of those beliefs isn't? Cut the crap, Mister Holier-Than-Thou.

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Updated On: 12/28/16 at 08:14 AM

BroadwayConcierge said: "Really? Telling somebody to live in the real world is condescending—but calling somebody a child for holding the political views they do isn't? Calling out somebody who's questioning the legitimacy of a peaceful power transition is condescending—but speaking down to me as homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic, and white supremacist when I haven't said or written a single world in support of any of those beliefs isn't? Cut the crap, Mister Holier-Than-Thou.



No, no, no, no. You don't get to support the man who is all of the things you mentioned and then claim those aren't your views. You helped create this disaster, you helped bring him to power, and now you get to live with it for the next 4 (long) years. You don't get to say, "well I'm not x, y, or z." Whether you are or aren't, by supporting (and I use supporting because I guarantee you aren't old enough to actually vote) this man and all he stands for, you're giving your assent to it and saying it doesn't matter. This is who you associated yourself with. Just own your homophobia, racism, and xenophobia.

Telling somebody to live in the real world is condescending

Yes. Because you are asserting that your view of the world is the only legitimate and superior one and that they should conform to your view.

but calling somebody a child for holding the political views they do isn't?

Well, that's the point where you actually highlight your own hypocrisy. Do as you say, not as you do. Keep it up! Cut the crap, Mister Holier-Than-Thou!

Calling out somebody who's questioning the legitimacy of a peaceful power transition is condescending—but speaking down to me as homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic, and white supremacist when I haven't said or written a single world in support of any of those beliefs isn't?

Well, that certainly is an interesting take on what I said. For someone who rails against alleged condescension, you sure deploy it authentically, easily and often. But I'm not going to try and stop you from enjoying your peaceful power transition so you can enthusiastically embrace your champion of homophobes, misogynists, xenophobes and white supremacists. Your party. Your champion. Your source of pride. I've absolutely no doubt you are proud of the man, his political knowledge, competence and experience, his honorable actions and behavior, his maturity and respect of others, his commitment to his party and his supporters, the enthusiasm and pride he inspires among the alt-right and conservative and Christian extremists, and most importantly, what he represents: a lifetime of branding, marketing and serving the elite; most notably wealthy, white, heterosexual men. I'm really happy that you get everything you want so you can enthusiastically embrace it all in this peaceful transition of power. So peaceful, it's positively tranquil. It sounds like you're getting everything you deserve. Keep it up!