The no-kids-allowed movement is spreading.- Page 4

[Q]

Posted: 7/28/11 at 4:44pm

One of my favorite character performances ever. Go figure.

[best12bars]

Posted: 7/28/11 at 5:01pm

Just watched in again recently, and he's every bit as effective as he was when I was little.

Sir Robert Helpmann ranks right up there with Margaret Hamilton as one of the all-time most memorable screen villains ... and with a fraction of the screen time.

(and she's only on screen for 12 minutes!)

[NYadgal]

Posted: 7/28/11 at 6:09pm

I wouldn't want to live in a world that didn't include the joy of having children around...

Of course I don't love the way some people behave. Sadly, many of the social graces seem to be lacking in our day and age. But, I prefer to believe that 'wherever there is a human being, there is an opportunity for kindness'.

I'd love to imagine a world in which our children are surrounded with kindness.


(This is not to excuse bad parenting....)

Updated On: 7/28/11 at 06:09 PM

[NYadgal]

Posted: 7/28/11 at 6:18pm

I know many children who behave better when out in public than many of the adults I know. They say please and thank you, they look at you when you speak, and not at these stupid smart phones that have been taking over our lives. I would much prefer to have "no electronics allowed" establishments over "no children allowed" ones.

Great point.

[Q]

Posted: 7/28/11 at 6:33pm

"I'd love to imagine a world in which our children are surrounded with kindness."

I would, too - in a place I believe the Baroness called "boarding school"

It's a good thing there're people like you, Addy, because the species would die out if everyone was like me - for a couple of reasons!

[NYadgal]

Posted: 7/28/11 at 6:35pm

Oh, Q

[sabrelady]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 1:48am

Just remember who is gonna be choosing your nursing home!!

( or worse, WORKING in it!)

[sabrelady]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 1:52am

UTOPIA! (for some!)



KID FREE ZONE

[Q]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 1:54am

Sabre - sage advice (and funny, to boot!)

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 2:07am

I have a good friend here who is a super nice guy.  I had only known him through school, so when he threw a barbecue, I was excited to meet his wife and daughter.  The wife instantly rubbed me the wrong way, but that's for another thread.  The child,10, is beyond a doubt the most ill mannered, obnoxious child I have ever had the displeasure of interacting with.  She never shuts up.  She constantly interrupted adult conversation and tried to change the subject.  She tried to dictate what everyone should do.  While we were talking, she turned on the tv, which was in the room we were gathered around.  She announced very loudly that she was hungry, so we should eat NOW, which her father jumped to without question.  When dessert was served, a small collection of cookies and cupcakes I made, she snatched two of everything, even though there was only enough of some items for each person to have one.  After dinner, she loudly asked, "Mummy, how long are these people going to stay?!"  To which the mother replied, "I am sure they'll want to be heading home soon."   She said, "Good!" and plopped her rump in front of the tv again.  

On the way home, my wife and I were floored by how horrid the kid was.  I blame the parents for putting up with behavior that they obviously created.  They also should have invited a friend or something to entertain the kid when it was going to be all adults or at least discussed proper behavior before we all got there.  Regardless, she spoiled the whole day.  Then, when I saw her father the next day, he commented on how well behaved his daughter was the day before.  He's obviously clueless.  We've seen the socially twice since then and both times, beloved daughter was in tow.  She insults and makes fun of her father (just like the mother does) and once slapped him across the face.  

Do parents think this is cute?

[Q]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 2:15am

"just like the mother does" <----- The answer.

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 2:22am

He's just whipped into submission, I think. His wife is a superbitch. Maybe he thinks this is how females should behave.

[Q]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 2:29am

Have you ever met his mother?

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 2:32am

No, she's dead.

[D2]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 7:33am

"Of course I don't love the way some people behave. Sadly, many of the social graces seem to be lacking in our day and age."

Spot on, Addy. And how can we expect anything more when our country's leaders are behaving just as badly as spoiled children, if not worse?

[best12bars]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 9:36am

JG2---that's a horror story!

Question for you: given the situation, do you think it's your place to say something to your friend? Or is that whole "it takes a village" thing just a bunch of crap?

[best12bars]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 9:51am

"I'd love to imagine a world in which our children are surrounded with kindness."

Kindness, absolutely, but not without discipline. Children don't innately understand that rules are in place so that everyone is taken into consideration, not just them.

So many adults don't seem to understand this either, of course. They think social rules are invented just to hinder their own enjoyment and keep them in check, rather than to allow others to live alongside them peaceably.

What I also don't like is when adults automatically have allergic reactions to children before they've said or done anything. That's just as bad as an unruly child in my book. Worse, actually, since they're older and should know better. They need to be held accountable for their unruly behavior, too.

[nygrl232]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 10:00am

JG, wow. Your friend sounds like he has zero boundaries in his personal life. Re: Bestie's question, in my unasked for opinion, I do think that in such situations that stuff's gotta be addressed, because it's only going to get worse. People can lead their lives quite fluently with such horrors going on right in front of them and just be on autopilot from being around it so much.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 10:39am

I find it very interesting (and telling) that JG's friend asserted the next day how well behaved his monster of a daughter was.

That to me says that he's in fact aware on some level at least of how awful her behavior is. I'm not sure exactly what reaction he was looking for. For JG to say, "Well, actually . . ." to give him the impetus to suggest to his wife that the daughter needs discipline? Or even to be able to then get mad at JG, shifting his frustration from his wife and daughter to a safer place?

I don't know, but unless he's insane--or never seen another child in his whole life--it's an odd thing to bring up.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 10:51am

I mean, what would she have to do for him to consider her not well behaved? Shed blood?

[AC126748]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 10:53am

I looked at the No Kidding page and it just seems too extreme, even for me. That said, I've never liked the idea of social clubs and the like, no matter what they espouse.

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 11:08am

I think her behavior stems 100% from her mother's behavior. Their relationship is in the tank and they have separate bedrooms. The wife goes so far as to insult her English speaking husband in Swedish in his presence, knowing he can't understand beyond basics. (Their daughter is fluent, though.) The moment he's out of earshot, she's complaining about everything. The last time we saw them socially, she mentioned at least four times that she looked a mess because she had to mow the yard that day because her lazy husband wouldn't do it. It should be noted that he had a heart attack a few years ago, is recently diagnosed diabetic and his doctor said it's not IF he has another heart attack, but when. He shouldn't be mowing grass. Later the daughter mentioned that she hated staying home with her "lazy father" because he never cooked. She's a mirror of mum.

So, darling daughter hears mummy and acts accordingly. She's the only child and can do no wrong in her mother's eyes. The child shows her father no respect, so I don't think he could rectify the situation if he wanted to. We are the father's friends, so mummy isn't going to be overly polite. I doubt she would correct her daughter, either. I wouldn't say anything because her mother obviously doesn't care for us and I would hate to her the dad's feelings. I think he gets beaten up on enough.

My wife and I have already had long discussions about making sure we raise children that other adults want to be around. There is very little more annoying than a nice friend with an obnoxious kid.

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 11:19am

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 11:30am

Can't wait to hear what darling dearest is like when she hits her teens!

[NYadgal]

Posted: 7/29/11 at 12:40pm

Besty - absolutely agree with every word.

JG2 - Agree that it was interesting that the father made a point to bring up how well behaved the child was. I would imagine there are some issues there... what a miserable experience for you.