BroadwayConcierge said: "adamgreer's response is, yet again, one that epitomizes the modern American liberal: "GASP! RACIST! IMMIGRANT HATER!!!"
Xenophobia is fear against immigrants; not illegal immigrants. Immigrants are wonderful! It may shock you, adamgreer, that I come from a family of immigrants myself! Illegals, however, are no bueno. A wall in this regard is good.
Also, comparing Trump to Hitler remains the most asinine thing ever, and doing so completely ruins your legitimacy.
First, the Trump/Hitler discussion is Petra's false equivalency argument.
Now let's talk the border wall and the banning of immigrants - two separate actions.
I think you need to do a little research on the wall. It seems to get a lot of support mostly from those that don't live near the Mexican border or know anything about it. Those that do - who include many conservative Trump supporters - acknowledge that it doesn't make sense. It is not likely to have any impact on illegal immigration of the "bad guys." What about all the tunnels, etc that are used? They'll continue to multiply. But please do a little research on the support for the wall by those that have knowledge on the area.
In addition, it will cost lots. Given that there are limited resources and there are lots of competing needs for capital for Trump's proposed projects, where's the money going to come from? He wants to do a big infrastructure plan which has a lot of support, he wants to cut taxes, he wants to expand defense, insurance for all, no reductions to SS or Medicare. . . . .All of these add to the deficit. Hugely. The Republicans want revenue neutral. I'd rather see it go for infrastructure than the wall. Research and think.
As far as immigration, it is about shutting the borders. Keeping others out. Especially ones that might not have the same skin color or the same religious beliefs. It's always the way it is - back from when my grandparents came from Eastern Europe. And before that. The existing people never want the new people. They are afraid. You can't know "good" and "bad." We've home grown most of the bad by our attitudes. We're all about the categories. And we are creating bad will at home and around the world. Our national security is compromised because of our actions - not because we're letting immigrants in. We have more Tim McVeighs than we do illegal immigrants that do the same.
And I'm reminded of a remark KDogg made on another thread. We do so much in the name of terrorism - lots of money and rhetoric - but in truth, our "risks" - in many senses - is not from these nameless, faceless, illegal immigrant terrorists that we so rail against. It's mostly from people we know.
I wrote this as much for me - I think it is incumbent upon people to give reasoned responses. I do not put Petra in that category because she is the master of linking something that only has a little bit of what she says and always trots out the false equivalencies.
Carry on.
