Tonight's Democratic Debate: Hillary and Obama BOTH Won — Page 3

you can read his little lips: allah akhbar.

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"i have never once voted for a republican, but if Hillary is the nominee I will absolutely vote for the republican (save Huckabee who doesn't have a shot in hell anyway). I think having Hillary would not only be a disaster for the country, but I also think she will set the feminist movement back two decades or so."

You honestly think Clinton would be a disaster as opposed to McCain or Romney???!?!?

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Is Hillary planning to curtail reproductive rights? Is her platform anti-choice or something, or was that just a comment that was supposed to sound clever but is just deeply uninformed and misogynistic?

Joe, don't be mean. Javero is a political genius, in his own estimation.

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Hilary looks like a Bobble-Head. Her head never stops nodding up and down. What's her problem? She looks like an idiot, all the time. Of course, she never, ever says anything of any substance. Really, what did she say?

I don't claim to know all there is to know about politics. But I do recall an anectdote which gets little play on this board. There once was a very young somewhat obscure governor of the small state of Arkansas who lost his gubertorial re-election bid before being re-elected to a 2nd term later.

In his presidential bid, he floundered in the IA caucus and first couple of Democratic primaries later sweeping the floor with the competition in the major SOUTHERN PRIMARIES. He eventually went on to win the party's nomination. From there he picked up a young tike named Al Gore along the way and then went on to win a ticket to the White House.

Now, I don't claim to be some political savvant but if memory serves he's the last muthafriggin' Democrat to have digs over at 1600 Penn Ave NW (DC), political spouses, offspring, and pets notwithstanding. Bill was also extremely popular with both party elites and the rank-and-file across the board.

Those same party elites and a substantial portion the Democratic base this time around have somehow come out against the proposed Clinton co-presidency. Perhaps the detractors know something that this simpleton doesn't or maybe I can just take the easy road and pronouce them all a bunch of misogynists.

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Updated On: 2/1/08 at 04:01 PM

nope, lil, not gonna work. those who dislike her are misogynists, those dislike him are racists and those who dislike the white haired guy are ageists.

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That's exactly what I said, javero--Hillary is to the Repubs what Nixon is to the Dems. Like chum for the sharks.

And 1987 was a bad year for hair and clothes.

And I know it's 2008--but just barely.

Updated On: 2/1/08 at 04:30 PM

heh, in '04 the soon-to-be-nominee for the party of devil worshipping child sacrificers was quoted similarly about jfk's campaign, "you don't have to fall in love. you just have to fall in line."

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in 2004, the junior senator from new york was quoted as above remarking about the campaign of theresa heinz's hubby.

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I thought her command last night made Obama look a bit childish.

I agree with this. She looked presidential and unrattled at all times and spoke very well, whereas there were times when Obama looked nervous or unsettled. I wouldn't say childish as I thought that he carried himself very well on the whole, but her performance wowed me.

My issue is kind of that... Obama inspires hope and that's obviously so important, but I think that Clinton inspires confidence, both based on her past experience and the way she carries herself. I wish there were something a little more concrete to go on with Obama.

I'm still not quite sure how her husband's experience has become HER experience.

I mean, my dad has worked at the water plant for 16 years and they've been married for over 35, but I don't think that qualifies my mom to run the place.

Updated On: 2/1/08 at 05:00 PM