Tower Records Space In NYC
tmm_fan
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/04
#50re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/15/07 at 7:31pm
I was replying to a post on this thread.
And I shop for all of my media at indie stores/chains because of personal ethics and principles. I will not give into huge corporations that go to any lengths to and have no shame in manufacturing consent, which is the propaganda used to brainwash the public into buying their stuff, ie giving them -- these huge corporations -- more and more money so fat executives can get even fatter, which is what it all really comes down to ... everything also goes in a cycle; it all goes back to the government. Take a political science class if you want to learn about a lot of this stuff.
I love supporting places that give a lot more character to a community and/or give back to communities; and if morals and ethics do not have anything to do with this, then I might as well stop fighting for what is right, glue rose-colored glasses to my head, and watch the world go down the tube. I am not totally depressed; I do see the positives in many things. But, I am also not blind, and will not stand by while immoral, un-ethical and just plain wrong practices are going on around me.
I am sorry if many of you disagree.
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"Don't let them mold your mind, they want to control mankind, seems like their only intention is to exploit the earth; and you trust in their deceit, your mind causes your defeat, and so you become an invention to distort this earth; propoganda and lies, is a plague in our lives, how much more victimized, before we realize (hey) ... they'll make it attractive, to get man destracted, corrupting your (soul), polluting your (soul), destroying (your soul, mind control) ... ooh grand master, let the people go, you put them in total confusion, to downs-troy their soul; for they practise what you preach, so they're always in your reach, hi-tech slavery in these days, its mind control" -- Stephen Marley
#51re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/15/07 at 7:45pmThat's fine if you support independents because of your morals and ethics, but please do not tell me what is moral and ethical. It comes off as very preachy, and you have no right to tell me what is moral and ethical. I will decide for myself.
tmm_fan
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/04
#52re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/15/07 at 7:48pmHow is manufacturing consent ethical?
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"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make" -- The Beatles
"Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Mahatma Gandhi
"Celebrate Earth Day, every day" -- John Denver
"Don't let them mold your mind, they want to control mankind, seems like their only intention is to exploit the earth; and you trust in their deceit, your mind causes your defeat, and so you become an invention to distort this earth; propoganda and lies, is a plague in our lives, how much more victimized, before we realize (hey) ... they'll make it attractive, to get man destracted, corrupting your (soul), polluting your (soul), destroying (your soul, mind control) ... ooh grand master, let the people go, you put them in total confusion, to downs-troy their soul; for they practise what you preach, so they're always in your reach, hi-tech slavery in these days, its mind control" -- Stephen Marley
#53re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/15/07 at 7:51pmMeaning?
tmm_fan
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/04
#54re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/15/07 at 7:54pm
Here is a great page on manufacturing consent:
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman%20/Manufacturing_Consent.html
Couple all that with my previous lengthy post, and think about it.
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"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make" -- The Beatles
"Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Mahatma Gandhi
"Celebrate Earth Day, every day" -- John Denver
"Don't let them mold your mind, they want to control mankind, seems like their only intention is to exploit the earth; and you trust in their deceit, your mind causes your defeat, and so you become an invention to distort this earth; propoganda and lies, is a plague in our lives, how much more victimized, before we realize (hey) ... they'll make it attractive, to get man destracted, corrupting your (soul), polluting your (soul), destroying (your soul, mind control) ... ooh grand master, let the people go, you put them in total confusion, to downs-troy their soul; for they practise what you preach, so they're always in your reach, hi-tech slavery in these days, its mind control" -- Stephen Marley
#55re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/15/07 at 8:01pm
I read it, and I don't disagree with you, but that still gives you no right to preach to the board what you consider moral and ethical.
Also, I have one other question: In my town, there are not many music stores, and none of them carry the music that I like to listen to. So, should I go to Barnes and Noble or order it from Amazon, or sould I just not get the CD because it is not "moral" or ethical". I fail to see why stopping at B&N or ordering something from AMazon once in a while constitutes as "immoral".
tmm_fan
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/04
#56re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/15/07 at 8:14pm
I never said that "you" were unethical/immoral; my point is that these corporations are immoral/unethical, and implied that if there are indies nearby, it is a much much better idea to shop there.
And another option is to forego amazon.com and get your books off a shop on http://www.booksense.com ... if there is not a booksense certified shop near you, just choose a shop further away.
Shopping at indies is the ethical thing to do; it is not just based on what is immoral and unethical to me and only me .... that is all :)
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"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make" -- The Beatles
"Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Mahatma Gandhi
"Celebrate Earth Day, every day" -- John Denver
"Don't let them mold your mind, they want to control mankind, seems like their only intention is to exploit the earth; and you trust in their deceit, your mind causes your defeat, and so you become an invention to distort this earth; propoganda and lies, is a plague in our lives, how much more victimized, before we realize (hey) ... they'll make it attractive, to get man destracted, corrupting your (soul), polluting your (soul), destroying (your soul, mind control) ... ooh grand master, let the people go, you put them in total confusion, to downs-troy their soul; for they practise what you preach, so they're always in your reach, hi-tech slavery in these days, its mind control" -- Stephen Marley
cheezedoodle
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/15/05
#57re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/15/07 at 8:27pmPretty tough words and judgement for someone who supports Whole Foods. You are all for the "good, organic" produce and stuff, but yet you don't seem to care that they (Whole Foods) does not give domestic partner benefits or support the people that actually pick that produce for you to enjoy with health benefits. Talk about unethical and immoral.
tmm_fan
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/04
#58re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/15/07 at 8:32pm
I always look at the larger picture ... one can argue small technicalities about anything forever, but what is the right choice, you know? That is key.
If we are to make a better home for ourselves, we "must" look at the larger picture and long-term benefits.
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"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make" -- The Beatles
"Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Mahatma Gandhi
"Celebrate Earth Day, every day" -- John Denver
"Don't let them mold your mind, they want to control mankind, seems like their only intention is to exploit the earth; and you trust in their deceit, your mind causes your defeat, and so you become an invention to distort this earth; propoganda and lies, is a plague in our lives, how much more victimized, before we realize (hey) ... they'll make it attractive, to get man destracted, corrupting your (soul), polluting your (soul), destroying (your soul, mind control) ... ooh grand master, let the people go, you put them in total confusion, to downs-troy their soul; for they practise what you preach, so they're always in your reach, hi-tech slavery in these days, its mind control" -- Stephen Marley
tmm_fan
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/04
#59re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/20/07 at 4:26pmbump ... and I don't care if you hate me for it.
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"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make" -- The Beatles
"Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Mahatma Gandhi
"Celebrate Earth Day, every day" -- John Denver
"Don't let them mold your mind, they want to control mankind, seems like their only intention is to exploit the earth; and you trust in their deceit, your mind causes your defeat, and so you become an invention to distort this earth; propoganda and lies, is a plague in our lives, how much more victimized, before we realize (hey) ... they'll make it attractive, to get man destracted, corrupting your (soul), polluting your (soul), destroying (your soul, mind control) ... ooh grand master, let the people go, you put them in total confusion, to downs-troy their soul; for they practise what you preach, so they're always in your reach, hi-tech slavery in these days, its mind control" -- Stephen Marley
tmm_fan
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/04
#60re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 4/26/07 at 4:04amanother
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"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make" -- The Beatles
"Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Mahatma Gandhi
"Celebrate Earth Day, every day" -- John Denver
"Don't let them mold your mind, they want to control mankind, seems like their only intention is to exploit the earth; and you trust in their deceit, your mind causes your defeat, and so you become an invention to distort this earth; propoganda and lies, is a plague in our lives, how much more victimized, before we realize (hey) ... they'll make it attractive, to get man destracted, corrupting your (soul), polluting your (soul), destroying (your soul, mind control) ... ooh grand master, let the people go, you put them in total confusion, to downs-troy their soul; for they practise what you preach, so they're always in your reach, hi-tech slavery in these days, its mind control" -- Stephen Marley
tmm_fan
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/04
#62re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 5/11/07 at 2:25pm...
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"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make" -- The Beatles
"Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Mahatma Gandhi
"Celebrate Earth Day, every day" -- John Denver
"Don't let them mold your mind, they want to control mankind, seems like their only intention is to exploit the earth; and you trust in their deceit, your mind causes your defeat, and so you become an invention to distort this earth; propoganda and lies, is a plague in our lives, how much more victimized, before we realize (hey) ... they'll make it attractive, to get man destracted, corrupting your (soul), polluting your (soul), destroying (your soul, mind control) ... ooh grand master, let the people go, you put them in total confusion, to downs-troy their soul; for they practise what you preach, so they're always in your reach, hi-tech slavery in these days, its mind control" -- Stephen Marley
etoile
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/2/03
#63re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 5/11/07 at 3:54pmYou may want to check with Rob and Craig on their spamming policy.
tmm_fan
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/11/04
#64re: Tower Records Space In NYC
Posted: 5/15/07 at 9:33pmI don't care if you percieve me as this psycho or something; doing what's right and making people aware by any -- non-violent, that is -- means necessary is always respectable. It is these people who will make this world a better place.
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"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make" -- The Beatles
"Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Mahatma Gandhi
"Celebrate Earth Day, every day" -- John Denver
"Don't let them mold your mind, they want to control mankind, seems like their only intention is to exploit the earth; and you trust in their deceit, your mind causes your defeat, and so you become an invention to distort this earth; propoganda and lies, is a plague in our lives, how much more victimized, before we realize (hey) ... they'll make it attractive, to get man destracted, corrupting your (soul), polluting your (soul), destroying (your soul, mind control) ... ooh grand master, let the people go, you put them in total confusion, to downs-troy their soul; for they practise what you preach, so they're always in your reach, hi-tech slavery in these days, its mind control" -- Stephen Marley
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