'United 93' - are we ready?
#25re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 4:37pm
I was at the dismal "Failure to Launch" when the trailer came on!
I couldn't look at the screen and neither could most of the audience. When the trailer ended, there was a dead silence.
Maybe people in Wyoming will rush to see it!
However, I can't imagine many New Yorkers, who lived through that horrific event and the days the followed, laying down $11 bucks to feel nauseous for two hours.
Updated On: 4/3/06 at 04:37 PM
Cruel_Sandwich
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/30/05
#26re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 5:38pmI do feel that it is in good hands with Paul Greengrass, though. I will definitely see it.
#27re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 5:50pmThe thing is, I want to see it, even though I doubt I'm ready. Why I want to see it is because when 9/11 happened, I was in the 5th grade. I remember that day clearly, I went on the bus to school as normal and it wasn't until I got there that my teacher started freaking out because her friend worked in one of the buildings. But I didn't know why she was so upset. My principal made an announcement on the loudspeaker telling us what happened, and I still didn't understand. I didn't even know what the World Trade Center was. Worse still- I didn't realize the amount of deaths and how horrible it really was. Other kids my age and above were watching the news as people jumped from buildings, but my mother made sure I didn't see that. I was even called to the office with my sister because at that time my father was in NYC on a business trip, in a building 2 buildings away from the twin towers. I still didn't understand. And the worse part yet- during the memorial service that was aired on the news... well we were watching it in American Gov't class, and none of us really understood. Our teachers were saying "watch this. you will one day tell your grandchildren you saw this happen". But all we could do was throw paper at each other. I'm not proud of it, obviously, but I wish now that I was older when it happened, that way I would have understood it more. Which is why I want to see this movie, to replay that at an older age. It's more than likely that I'm still not ready, but we'll see...
#28re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 5:57pm
I have no desire to see this. The pilot of flight 93 was from Littleton, and his son went to high school with me. Watching a movie about the life of someone so close to home would feel like I was trespassing on their lives and the lives of everyone else aboard.
Cruel_Sandwich
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/30/05
#29re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 6:01pm
Don't worry, Sally. At least you weren't on the AICN talkback on that day:
http://www.aintitcool.com/tb_display.cgi?id=10152#340582
One guy even said:
"Sony will now have to pull that awesome Spiderman teaser trailer from theaters! A tragedy as no more World Trade Center...
by Regis Travolta September 11th, 2001
07:34:22 AM CST
Damn it! Somebody assassinate Osama bin Laden please! Seeing that helicopter with the bank robbers hanging on the spider web between the twin towers of the WTC was awesome and if anyone has a tape of it you've got yourself a valuable collector's item now. We should've taken Osama out years ago, wimpy Clinton and wimpy Bush afraid to assassinate him. Maybe now we'll grow some collective balls and liquidate this asshole and his followers. "
Now THAT'S sickening.
LionessInWinter
Broadway Star Joined: 8/23/05
#30re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 6:27pm
Going out on a limb, I think most of the country will be fine with it. I don't think most of the people elsewhere have such a continued emotional tie to it like people here in NY and the surrounding metro area, and even those in D.C.
I'm not saying others weren't affected, but I don't think it lingers with them, unless they had some sort of personal or professional link with those who went through it.
Just my .02
#31re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 7:02pm
I'm not a New Yorker, but 9/11 affected my very deeply. It still keeps me awake nights. I was in New York, at the Trade Center just two weeks before, so it was all so fresh in my mind which made it all the more difficult for me as an 8th grader.
That said, I can only imagine how New Yorkers must feel about this wave of September 11th movies. I think it's important that historic events be documented in such a way. Afterall, Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan made the horror and suffering of the Holocaust and World War II so real to me and gave me a completely enhanced respect for the brave people who were a part of them. I'm not quite sure everyone is ready to undergo such an educational experience about September 11. I mean, most people living in America today experienced it first-hand or live on their televisions.
I think it's important that these films be made.... just not yet. I'll have to give a lot of thought as to whether or not I can handle this film yet.
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LionessInWinter
Broadway Star Joined: 8/23/05
#32re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 7:25pmI kept sticking tapes in the VCR all day, once I got my wits about me after a while, to record what was happening, for historical purposes I guess. Still can't watch them. Not sure I'll ever be able to.
#33re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 8:55pm
But someday, your children or grandchildren might want to watch them.
I don't have a problem with recording breaking events, but with dramatizing them, especially so soon thereafter. It hasn't even been five years, for God's sake.
#34re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 10:18pm
I saw the one on A&E... it was not highly produced, but done well for the budget they had.. and I was riveted and re-affected. I'm not certain I could watch it again, even as a more slickly produced Hollywood version, but that's my own issue. I'm a little concerned that it won't be as honest or forthright as I felt the A&E version was.
Why Flight 93 though? Yes, I know, the heroes, the heroes... Why not a film about a firefighter going back up those stairs full of frightened people and telling them all they would be fine, but had to keep moving.. how about...
nevermind.. typing this I began to cry and realized that I'm not even ready to discuss a movie treatment.. there needs to be a book instead so we can read and contemplate the state of the world quietly without being told how to respond emotionally.
Cruel_Sandwich
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/30/05
#35re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 10:20pm
I'm actually in support of the United 93 film. Even though I'm not expecting a strictly accurate account of what went down, it can definitely bring a certain amount of clarity and understanding to those who are willing to handle it.
It will certainly be tough going, though. No doubt about that. Just watching the blacked-out 9/11 sequence in F9/11 was draining in itself. I can only imagine what seeing this film must be like...
#36re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/3/06 at 10:59pmI really want to see it. I think it is great that hollywood is trying to convey such complicated emotions on the screen, and I do think ti will be difficult to pull off.
#37re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 1:06am
I've always been drawn to stories about days that begin peacefully and end in mass tragedy. I don't know why. I've actually worked in a morgue before so, while I'm not desensitized to death, I definitely spend a lot of time thinking about it.
The A&E docudrama struck me as really disingenuous, a failure artistically. I found "The Flight That Fought Back" very moving, thanks in part to the restrained performances. Hopefully this film honors the memories of the passengers and crew while reflecting the demands (in terms of acting, pacing, etc.) of a theatrical format. Forgive me for saying that I think it would be impossible to tell this story well without it being thrilling, but I expect that Greengrass has found a way around the cheap thrills that characterize many action-adventure films.
Updated On: 4/4/06 at 01:06 AM
#38re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 1:24am
What about the nick cage "world trade center movie" I saw a poster but no preview yet
according to imdb:
In the aftermath of the World Trade Center disaster, hope is still alive. Refusing to bow down to terrorism, rescuers and family of the victims press forward. Their mission of rescue and recovery is driven by the faith that under each piece of rubble, a co-worker, a friend a family member may be found. This is the true story of John McLoughlin and William J. Jimeno, the last two survivors extracted from Ground Zero and the rescuers who never gave up. It's a story of the true heroes of that fateful time in the history of the United States when buildings would fall and heroes would rise, literally from the ashes to inspire the entire human race.
#40re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 2:11amI don't expect to have a problem seeing this. The 40 families of those who died approved the making of this film and if they can watch it and also be involved in a "making of" documentary, I think that I should be able to deal with it as well.
#41re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 2:49am
I will definitely be seeing it.
If it's an accurate and fair account of what actually happened on that flight (which I assume it is), I would like to learn about it. I want to see what it must have been like for those people. Obviously, the film will come no where close to what it was actually like, but it's a topic that fascinates me and I will surely be there the day it opens. I cannot wait.
ZONEACE
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/10/05
#42re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 6:25amDoes anyone know when it's supposed to be released? because if the concensus of New York movie goers is like the concesus of movie goers in this thread I may be the only person to see it in NY.
#43re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 6:31am
New Yorkers Unhappy with 9/11 Film
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HOLLYWOOD - A New York City cinema has pulled the trailer for forthcoming 9/11 film United 93 after several complaints from distressed patrons
full story: http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3488468
and i think it's opening the tribeca film festival
#44re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 10:27amI think it opens April 28.
erikaamato
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/12/04
#45re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 12:26pm
The Nic Cage 9/11 film is an Oliver Stone production. (A friend of mine worked on it.)
As for the topic at hand, I personally am not ready. I still have never even visited Ground Zero. I can't bring myself to do it. That was the scariest, most horrendous day of my life, and I still choke up when I see a photo of the WTC. It freaks me out that it's just not there anymore...
My 9/11 story goes like this: Even though I live in LA, I grew up in NJ, and on 9/11/2001 my Dad worked at 1 Liberty Plaza (directly across the street from WTC), and took the PATH train into the WTC every morning, then walked through the breezeway to get to work. Well, he happened to be running late that day. Which he never is. When he got to the Hoboken station that morning, the 1st plane had just hit, so he was told he'd have to take the 33rd St PATH line instead of the WTC line and get off at Christopher St and walk. As a precaution. They thought it was just an aviation accident, and no-one thought the towers would fall. Anyway, when he got out of the train at Christopher St and started walking back down toward WTC, he thought he only saw one tower, but wasn't entirely sure, as sometimes from that angle you could really only see one, anyway. Suddenly, as he's walking, the 2nd tower goes down right before his eyes. Then his odyssey on trying to get back home began. (A very long story)
We couldn't reach him for over 6 hours, (cell phones not going through), and we didn't know if he was alive or not. There I was, 3,000 miles away, feeling completely powerless, watching it all on TV. He very easily could've been underground, in the PATH, when the bldgs went down. Thank god he was running late that day. It was horrible not knowing... I can only imagine the pain of all those people whose family members died that day.
#46re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 1:34pmCNN aired some of the trailer this morning, I just had to leave the room. I am just not ready yet... and may never be.
#47re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 3:31pmI saw the trailer yesterday before "Inside Man". I live very close to where that flight actually went down. While there were only a few of us in the theater, the awkward silence -- even from my younger brother -- was very uncomfortable. I probably will force myself to see the movie, if only to be able to form an opinion.
#49re: 'United 93' - are we ready?
Posted: 4/4/06 at 6:33pmI have a hard time watching Holocaust movies......I probably will never be able to watch a 9-11 movie......
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