"We are not the aggressors. We are learning to fight back."

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/19/08 at 12:21pm

Message to the religious right - this isn't just about marriage, it's about history
by: The Author
Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 19:09:33 PM EST

I keep hearing all of this nonsense about us lgbts attacking people, about us using intimidation and violence to oppress people, about us somehow being ugly aggressors.

Newt Gingrich (who wrote the book on deceptive messaging during his tenure in the U.S. House of Representatives) actually accused us of being "secular fascists."

Gingrich's attack on us seem to be the prevailing theme with those on the other side of the Proposition 8 argument.

And I think there needs to be some historical perspective on this matter.
The Author :: Message to the religious right - this isn't just about marriage, it's about history
True, Proposition 8 has galvanized our community. We have become a bit more politically engaged in our anger. That is a good thing.

However, any display of violence on either side of the argument should never be tolerated.

Nor should letting the religious right frame the moment.

I have a few questions to people like Newt Gingrich, Bill O’Reilly, Chuck Norris, Gary Bauer, Peter LaBarbera and the rest who are trying to push this "gay intimidation" image.

Where were you in the late 1970s when Anita Bryant accused us of trying to “recruit” children?

Where were you in 1983 when Paul Cameron accused gay men of stuffing gerbils up our rectums and castrating children? Or afterwards when he went from state to state pushing his phony research papers all designed to make us the boogiemen of American society?

Where were you when Jerry Falwell exploited the AIDS crisis to generate more money for the Moral Majority? Or when those dying of AIDS were cast out of their communities and excommunicated from their churches?

Where were you when Colorado passed that law in 1992 that basically said cities in the state had absolutely no right to protect gays and lesbians from discrimination?

Where were you when over the course of 20 years all of those phony “pro-family” groups told lies in front of federal and congressional state houses in attempts to beat back pro-gay laws or spread discredited research that gave “upstanding, moral” families the perfect excuse to put their gay sons and daughters out on the cold streets?

Where were you when organizations like Concerned Women for America, the Family Research Council, the Traditional Values Coalition, and Focus on the Family unconsciously gave reasoning for groups of roaming thugs to bash our heads in, chase us out in heavy traffic, beat us to bloody pulps with nail embedded boards, and hang us from fences on dark and lonely roads?

How is it that you can dare call us aggressive when for over 30 years, you have done everything in your power to make America hate and fear us?

How it is that you can dare infer that we don't have a right to get just a tad angry when for over 30 years, you have done everything in your power to make us hate and fear ourselves?

Every lie, every indignity, every attempt to dehumanize the lgbt community has brought us to this point. The Proposition 8 vote was the last straw in a chain of indignities that stretch as long as Jacob's ladder.

This ain’t just about marriage. Nor is this a single moment in time.

We are not the aggressors. We are learning to fight back.

When I was coming out, it wasn’t the fact that I was gay that bothered me more than the knowledge that so many had already written my life for me; told me who I was, what I liked, what I didn’t like, and even where I was going after I died.

Worst of all, they had the nerve to tell me that I had absolutely no rights to the words "values," "family," "tradition," or "honor."

And you know what the saddest thing about this is? I was not alone. Hundreds of thousands of lgbts went through the same experience. It was our "rite of passage."

So while I may not have a media spin machine behind me and therefore very few will give a damn about what I say, while I may not be a member of a religious think tank who is presently working to use this moment to again dehumanize lgbts, and while I may not be considered as a "leading gay talking head," I am an American, a human being, and a child of God.

Therefore, I will never forget what has brought me to this point of outrage.

And I will do my best to make sure that this country never forgets either.

Lastly, I will do my best to make sure that YOU never forget.
Pam's House Blend

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 11/19/08 at 1:17pm

::applauds::

But we shouldn't be surprised that the antigays are framing it all this way, spinning everything madly into a whirl. They are going to fight us to the bloody end. They will use every trick in the bag.

We've gotten uppity and they don't like it.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 11/19/08 at 1:24pm

" spinning everything madly into a whir"


You might even say they're frothing it up into meringue-like peaks with some lemon zest delicately sprinkled on top.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 11/19/08 at 1:32pm

I have seen quite a bit of bitching in letters to the editor and on tv about how inconvenienced everyone was when Saturday's rally in Chicago turned into a march.

I just keep thinking, well, you've seen how denying civil rights to gay people inconveniences you. Can you now demonstrate how granting them would?

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 11/19/08 at 1:40pm

Thanks for that letter!

VERY well written.

[jaystarr]

Posted: 11/19/08 at 2:15pm

Thanks for posting that! Love this part.."Therefore, I will never forget what has brought me to this point of outrage. And I will do my best to make sure that this country never forgets either. Lastly, I will do my best to make sure that YOU never forget!

and WE SHALL not!

J*

Updated On: 11/19/08 at 02:15 PM

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 11/19/08 at 2:42pm

I got Ronnie Delgado, the General Manager of the hotel, to call me back about having the offensive video shot at his hotel, removed, and he said he hasn't seen it, but everyone has the right to his or her own opinion. He also said that if we are willing to rent the podium, we could make our own video. (Which is starting to sound like a good idea)

I think this writer has said it very well:

Message to the religious right - this isn't just about marriage, it's about history
by: The Author
Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 19:09:33 PM EST

I keep hearing all of this nonsense about us lgbts attacking people, about us using intimidation and violence to oppress people, about us somehow being ugly aggressors.

Newt Gingrich (who wrote the book on deceptive messaging during his tenure in the U.S. House of Representatives) actually accused us of being "secular fascists."

Gingrich's attack on us seem to be the prevailing theme with those on the other side of the Proposition 8 argument.

And I think there needs to be some historical perspective on this matter.
The Author :: Message to the religious right - this isn't just about marriage, it's about history
True, Proposition 8 has galvanized our community. We have become a bit more politically engaged in our anger. That is a good thing.

However, any display of violence on either side of the argument should never be tolerated.

Nor should letting the religious right frame the moment.

I have a few questions to people like Newt Gingrich, Bill O’Reilly, Chuck Norris, Gary Bauer, Peter LaBarbera and the rest who are trying to push this "gay intimidation" image.

Where were you in the late 1970s when Anita Bryant accused us of trying to “recruit” children?

Where were you in 1983 when Paul Cameron accused gay men of stuffing gerbils up our rectums and castrating children? Or afterwards when he went from state to state pushing his phony research papers all designed to make us the boogiemen of American society?

Where were you when Jerry Falwell exploited the AIDS crisis to generate more money for the Moral Majority? Or when those dying of AIDS were cast out of their communities and excommunicated from their churches?

Where were you when Colorado passed that law in 1992 that basically said cities in the state had absolutely no right to protect gays and lesbians from discrimination?

Where were you when over the course of 20 years all of those phony “pro-family” groups told lies in front of federal and congressional state houses in attempts to beat back pro-gay laws or spread discredited research that gave “upstanding, moral” families the perfect excuse to put their gay sons and daughters out on the cold streets?

Where were you when organizations like Concerned Women for America, the Family Research Council, the Traditional Values Coalition, and Focus on the Family unconsciously gave reasoning for groups of roaming thugs to bash our heads in, chase us out in heavy traffic, beat us to bloody pulps with nail embedded boards, and hang us from fences on dark and lonely roads?

How is it that you can dare call us aggressive when for over 30 years, you have done everything in your power to make America hate and fear us?

How it is that you can dare infer that we don't have a right to get just a tad angry when for over 30 years, you have done everything in your power to make us hate and fear ourselves?

Every lie, every indignity, every attempt to dehumanize the lgbt community has brought us to this point. The Proposition 8 vote was the last straw in a chain of indignities that stretch as long as Jacob's ladder.

This ain’t just about marriage. Nor is this a single moment in time.

We are not the aggressors. We are learning to fight back.

When I was coming out, it wasn’t the fact that I was gay that bothered me more than the knowledge that so many had already written my life for me; told me who I was, what I liked, what I didn’t like, and even where I was going after I died.

Worst of all, they had the nerve to tell me that I had absolutely no rights to the words "values," "family," "tradition," or "honor."

And you know what the saddest thing about this is? I was not alone. Hundreds of thousands of lgbts went through the same experience. It was our "rite of passage."

So while I may not have a media spin machine behind me and therefore very few will give a damn about what I say, while I may not be a member of a religious think tank who is presently working to use this moment to again dehumanize lgbts, and while I may not be considered as a "leading gay talking head," I am an American, a human being, and a child of God.

Therefore, I will never forget what has brought me to this point of outrage.

And I will do my best to make sure that this country never forgets either.

Lastly, I will do my best to make sure that YOU never forget.

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8306


I told him that it looks like the hotel is supporting their point of view of bigotry and that if the group is sued, the hotel will be included, unless they remove the video from You Tube.

Feel free to send the Hotel Manager an email telling him how you feel at:

[e-mail]


ORIGINAL LETTER PLEASE FORWARD THIS!

From: Byron Batista
Subject: Offensive Video Using Your Logo on You Tube
To: [e-mail]
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 1:50 PM
Doubletree Hotel Santa Ana/Orange County Airport201 East MacArthur Blvd.Santa Ana, California 92707Phone: [phone]Fax: [phone]-222-TREE [e-mail] To Whom It May Concern: A video was posted on You Tube on November14th, 2008, which shows the supporters of Proposition 8 standing behind a podium from your Doubletree Hotel in Santa Ana, with your logo proudly on display. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU8uuPhQog0 This video is filled with lies, and many libelous statements. I am asking that you have them remove the video from You Tube, as it makes it look as if your hotel is promoting their brand of bigotry. If that is the case, then I will no longer be spending money at any of your hotels. Please let me know how you plan on dealing with this situation.