Who Died and Made YOU God? — Page 3

#51

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 11:50am

No one disagrees that it isn't best for an actor to reach out to their fans--it's the entitlement that is ridiculous. A performer can not ALWAYS sign. Tough. Come back another day.

Have either you of ever performed 8 shows a week? And then had to deal with a mob of fans after every show?

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#52

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 11:51am

Obviously autogrpahs are going to be sold on eBay. Hell, I've bought some myself from there. But there are jobs that are a hell of a lot harder than acting for 2 hours so I don't see that extra 15 minutes as doing much harm.

Again, that's just my opinion. You are certanly free to dismiss your fans if you want to, ala Marisa Tomei. But don't be surprised when your name gets tossed in the mud.

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"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."

#53

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 11:51am

Only in my dreams, jrb. Only in my dreams am I a lead actor in Broadway show, making at the VERY least 10x what I am now. To sing, dance and act every day! For a living!! A GOOD living. I'll sign every damn playbill you have. And all your friends' too.

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Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#54

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 11:52am

wow. That's right. They only worked for 2 - 3 hours. DO YOU REALIZE how much energy it TAKES????

Yes, you say that now, but you have no idea what it is really like. 8 shows a week for months and months is tough.

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Updated On: 9/29/04 at 11:52 AM

#55

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 11:54am

I do. But it's GREAT energy. My friends who do it are completely energized after a performance, for hours. Perhaps on a two-show day it's more tiring, but damn, my job makes me tired too. And I get a helluva lot less out of it.

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Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

Updated On: 9/29/04 at 11:54 AM

#56

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 11:56am

Yes--usually it is great. But performers get tired moments. Performers need time to rest. I will change my opinion when someone who has actually done a show 8 times a week pipes up. Ok?

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#57

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 11:57am

Well, I know for me....when I have had that kind of opportunity...Yes I have ALWAYS stopped and said hello and gave autographs...I also find it kind of embarressing. I enjoy very much what I do....but to have someone be rude and push their way to get at someone is just wrong. It is NOT part of my job to do the autographs. Its not in my contract, its not required by my agent or my producers. Im flattered that people want that little signature...but my signature is my performance.

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"It never bothered me that she called me a c*nt, it bothered me that I answered to it!" Carol Channing about Ethel Merman filming an episode of "The Love Boat"

#58

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 11:57am

Jrb, you and I just had this fight last night.
And the next time any of y'all get into a Broadway show and have people waiting to praise YOU, than you let me know that you're just too tired to deal with it.

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"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."

#59

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 11:59am

"Im flattered that people want that little signature...but my signature is my performance."

Bobby, I love it!!! That sounds like something you'd hear come from Streisand. lol

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"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."

#60

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 11:59am

They have time to rest when they leave the stage door. Plenty of time between then and the next show. Trust me, I have friends who do it 8 times a week, in leading roles, and HAPPILY sign. They understand that these people are paying customers who make it possible for them to do the jobs they love to do.

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Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#61

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:03pm

well, let me say this.....This "Job" to me is not the performance...Thats the icing on the cake....the "Job" is the auditioning, the callbacks, the dance calls, the agent talks, the callbacks again....the reading......THATS THE JOB...Where are the fans then??? Its the "job" that wears me out!

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"It never bothered me that she called me a c*nt, it bothered me that I answered to it!" Carol Channing about Ethel Merman filming an episode of "The Love Boat"

#62

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:07pm

All our jobs are wearing. But we all still have to treat paying customers like paying customers. That's how life works. In every other profession, people have to deal with it. Why not stage actors? What makes them more special than the rest of us average Joes?

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Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#63

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:08pm

Guess who does it eight times a week and happily signs?

<---- see pic at left

#64

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:09pm

You're absolutely right. But I think you've got to look at the fans as something good that comes along with finally making it. By seeing some of these people after shows, I've had some incredible experiences having very long conversations with people such as Sigourney Weaver, Carol Burnett, Sarah Jessica Parker and many others who have in one way or another really inspired me with their kindness. They certanly didn't have to take an hour or a half hour out of their time to talk to a fan, but they did. And until the day I die, I will forever praise them for being kind, generous and caring people.

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"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."

#65

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:09pm

well, I think we can all say SHE's a goddess.

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"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!" Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!

#66

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:10pm

Whatever, Rath--are you going to tell me you are happy skippy doo dah with all of your customers?

Myself--I have every desire to sign, take photos, and talk to audiences--especially youth. Education & Community Outreach is a strong part of my background and inspires this in me. But, if I need to walk on by one day for an important reason, I will. I hope it never happens, but who knows?

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#67

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:11pm

Dont get me wrong...I appreciate the fans very much.....but dont get angry if I dont happen to do it one night....there are 7 other performances to get one

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"It never bothered me that she called me a c*nt, it bothered me that I answered to it!" Carol Channing about Ethel Merman filming an episode of "The Love Boat"

#68

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:13pm

The odd moment, like you're talking about, jrb, is perfectly understandable. And people have done that, and been nice about it - we've read instances here of actors having to run but saying to the fans that they have to leave, acknowledging them, and the fans always walk away happy just for that acknowledgement. It's about treating fellow humans as humans and showing common courtesy (and customer service, of course).

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Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#69

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:13pm

Bobby...I can't believe you wouldn't sign my Playbill when I saw you last on Broadway. So who cares you weren't in "Wicked" do you really think any of my friends would've known that???

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"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment. Ralph Waldo Emerson

#70

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:16pm

I'll sign it, Boobs!!

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Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson

#71

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:17pm

Boobs, for you, Ill sign anything you want me to!

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"It never bothered me that she called me a c*nt, it bothered me that I answered to it!" Carol Channing about Ethel Merman filming an episode of "The Love Boat"

#72

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:22pm

Oh Rath darling...I got something better than a Playbill for you to sign.

Oh now you change your attitude Bobby..huh??? All it took was a martini and look how you change.

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"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment. Ralph Waldo Emerson

#73

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:26pm

hehe.....ok....so Im easy....

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"It never bothered me that she called me a c*nt, it bothered me that I answered to it!" Carol Channing about Ethel Merman filming an episode of "The Love Boat"

#74

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:28pm

Boobs, you're one to talk. Ever since you and Norbert left WICKED, you've just been such a bitch to everybody. Now you have the nerve to come on here and talk about how someone won't sign something for you? Grow up.

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"Noah, someday we'll talk again. But there's things we'll never say. That sorrow deep inside you. It inside me, too. And it never go away. You be okay. You'll learn how to lose things..."

#75

re: Who Died and Made YOU God?

Posted: 9/29/04 at 12:28pm

Bobby, as far as "7 other performances to get one," most of these people asking for autographs don't live here. They've made a special trip to see a Broadway show, with all the expense and planning that entails. That's probably their only chance to meet you/get an autograph.

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Have I ever shown you my Shattered Dreams box? It's in my Disappointment Closet. - Marge Simpson