Who The #@#k Is Saul Alinsky? — Page 3

ANYONE who disagrees with Mikey, who is not gay (wink wink) is dumb. Yes, Mikey, you have not given any facts just your right wing editorials. NOTHING MORE!

Saul Alinsky = Traitor/Communist/Socialist/Community Organizer

Pat Robertson,Bryan Fischer, Tony Perkins=Tolerant good decent Christians who live their lives by the teachings of Jesus Christ and has shown warmth and compassion as the Lord Savior has.

Why are you so driven by hate and OBSESSED With Saul Alinsky and Bill Maher? Why is Saul so bad but these extreme Christian nut jobs okay in your book, and I am assuming you have nothing bad to say about them since you failed to answer the question asked of you.


Mikey, you LIED about Obama saying he had never heard of Alinsky. No where in the video I posted to Maher say it or Obama yet you have claimed he said it. You can't back it up. You ignore me asking you to back it up and can't. Start taking your meds!

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Updated On: 1/30/12 at 05:06 PM

Hmmm, I don't know. In the accounts I read about the "fart-ins" they were always black people that were being used. I'll have to check into that.

Direct quote Sweetie!

"Alinsky is considered the king of community organizers and the idea that Obama has never heard of him or never read his book is asinine."

Your first post.Maher never said Obama has never heard of him and like you said, Maher never even mentioned Alinsky's book. So, if he never mentioned the book in New Rules, where are you getting this BS that Obama is some how denying he ever A)heard of Alinsky and B) read his book?

Funny how, according to you, I am stupid as sh*t yet you keep going on and on and on and on and on. Why would someone so smart like you engage in a dialogue with 'my kind'? Its like you have this man crush on me. (I'm flattered,but dude you are way too dumb for me)

Oh, and where did I call you a homophobe? I never called you that. Hilarious how I am answering your questions but you CAN NOT answer the ones I have been asking you.

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Updated On: 1/30/12 at 05:36 PM

To be fair, Mikey, there's a big difference between Maher saying that Alinsky and Obama aren't "BFFs" because Alinsky died when Obama was ten and that Obama has never heard of Alinsky.

You can say that Maher was implying that, but it's just as true that you were inferring it.

But I still don't see the problem with having read Alinsky. As I've pointed out, activists on both ends of the political spectrum have made use of his ideas.

Mikey,why is it okay for Dick Armey to read Saul Alinsky? Why are you not giving the Tea Party nuts jobs a hard time about them reading Alinsky? Do you attack only liberals who quote,read,or follow Saul Alinsky or do you you also attack the Idiotic Tea Party Terrorist and Christan nut jobs and Republicans who read his book as well. Sounds like you pick and chose who you attack. First, you have to know what political party they are in, then you make your "fair and balanced" decision. Oh, and why is his book such a big deal? Hate much?

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Updated On: 1/30/12 at 06:24 PM

"To be fair, Mikey, there's a big difference between Maher saying that Alinsky and Obama aren't "BFFs" because Alinsky died when Obama was ten and that Obama has never heard of Alinsky.
You can say that Maher was implying that, but it's just as true that you were inferring it."

Yes, I am inferring that. If you watch the video, the "main idea" of Maher's rant is basically, "Who the F&CK is Saul Alinsky?". He acts as if Alinsky is some obscure character that no one has ever heard of. Yet, this is not true. As I have pointed out before, his book RULES FOR RADICALS has never been out of print in over 40 years, there are over 150 reviews of it on Amazon and it is, if I remember correctly, ranked somewhere around number 52 or 62 on the Amazon list of "bestsellers". There are also numerous "affiliations" between Obama and Alinsky. So, I think it is reasonable to "infer" (and some may disagree) that Maher is trying to minimize Alinsky in this video clip. Are you saying you disagree? You do NOT thing Maher is trying to minimize him? How do you reach this conclusion? I pulled two references from the clip wherein Maher tried to diminish Alinsky's influence on Obama; he suggested outrage at the "specious" (misleading, deceptive, fallacious) link between the two, and the "BFF" comment. Are you suggesting that Maher is NOT inferring there is no connection between the two?

"But I still don't see the problem with having read Alinsky. As I've pointed out, activists on both ends of the political spectrum have made use of his ideas."

I have no problem whatsoever with people reading Alinsky. I have read him myself, though it was a long time ago and I did not find it very interesting. I agree with you that activists on both ends of the political spectrum have made use of his ideas. In fact, that is precisely my point. Many people who are politically astute and well read have at least HEARD of Alinsky, so why is Maher acting as if the guy is some obscure nobody? And, did Maher REALLY fill people in on who Alinsky was?
THAT was my point.

Saul Alinsky is not a common everyday name we all have heard of. AM Hate radio has talked about him for years, but a lot of people have never heard of him.

You failed at trying to diminish Obama and Alinsky. You speculated. Nothing more. Show me a picture of Obama reading RULES FOR RADICALS. You seem to think you can read Bill Maher's mind. You are inferring, guessing, or in other words, LYING.

Mikey wrote this:

"I have no problem whatsoever with people reading Alinsky. I have read him myself, though it was a long time ago and I did not find it very interesting."

You are joking, right? You have no problem with people reading Alisky? LOL! Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Its not Bill Maher's job to fill them in. He is there to entertain, and he did! Get over your hatred and obsession with all things Bill Maher and Saul Alinsky!

Still not man enough to answer the questions about these nut job Christians. You HATE Alinsky but have no opinions on these others who are far worse.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2012/0128/Who-is-Saul-Alinsky-and-why-is-Newt-Gingrich-so-obsessed-with-him

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Updated On: 1/30/12 at 08:51 PM

Not pissing you off? You called me a stupid shi# and here you are, many many posts later still rambling on in this obsession of yours of Saul Alinsky and you haven't even answered the questions I have asked you.

Say what you will, but you are not fooling anyone. You are pissed off. WHy else would you keep going and going? Me? Well, I'm the dumb one. Whats your excuse? LOL! Reason you keep coming back is because you know you are full of it and it drives you crazy. You lied. I called you out on it. You tried not answering the question. You ignored it several times. I pressed. You then came back with this BS excuse that Bill Maher was 'inferring' something. You see,you LIED and said he said something. Then you back peddled and said he inferred it. You keep doing it.

I'd ask you to explain how I, a gay man who is a strong advocate for gay rights and has zero tolerance for any kind of homophobia is anti gay. However, you have been lying non stop and posters here who know me know that what you are accusing me of is a lie. Seriously, did you pull this wild tale out of your a$$?

Yeah, I called myself a moron. I also called myself a Stupid shi#, as you called me. Am I really? Hell no, but you have called yourself well informed and educated. Clearly, you think mighty high of yourself.

In the Mitt Romey thread, I was under the impression you were not a fan of Newt Gingrich.

Mikey said this:

"I think if Gingrich were President (God forbid) he would want to be the "Paycheck President".
Nothing wrong with that."

https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?page=6&thread=1041323&boardname=off&boardid=2

God forbid? AM I wrong here? Do you like Newt or not? (not that I expect you to have the balls to actually answer a question, just thought I would ask)

Then I said this:

"My guess is Mikey is a Glen Beck fan"

Mikey replied:

"You'd be dead wrong there. Never watched his show."

https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?page=2&thread=1041471&boardname=off&boardid=2

Mikey, this is like the third time you have said something, denied saying it, and I have posted your exact quotes. Most liars have trouble keeping up with all their lies, but I have provided your exact quotes and links where you said it. That is a hell of a lot more than you have backed up. Either start keep track of the shi* you say or don't deny saying them!

I say the same about you. How t $#@! do you come up with this fantasy world of crap you spew? I actually think you were surprised someone challenged you on your first post. It appears as if you were insulted that people would just not take your opinion as a fact.

You hate Saul Alinsky.Why lie about it? You are obsessed. You went of because Bill Maher did not mention a radical book he wrote. You want anyone who mentions the name Saul Alinsky to mention the boo, the title, and give a mini background biography on the man or don't mention his name at all. You actually got the balls to say with a straight face you don't hate this guy? OH PUH-LEASE! You forget saying things and need me to remind you when and where and what you said. Well, you seem to be forgetting about the things you say and the anger and venom you spew while mentioning Maher and Alinsky. You even resorted to insulting Bill's audience and anyone who likes Bill and his show.

Your first post says it all. You say one thing then back peddle. You can't even answer a question I ask you. You are a coward. Admit it.You spew insults when you don't get your way. Jordan was insulted.You took an attitude with Siny. You are a liar and a coward. You have zero credibility here. If you were not angry,you would not spend so much time on Maher and Alinsky. Obsessed and angry. This is why you refuse to let someone like me get the last word in.Say what you want, your actions say more than your asinine posts do.

You've been called out and you then attempt some slippery talk to BS your way out of it. I've already in this post had to link 2 quotes you claim you never said. Since you remain silent on these 'so called' Christians, I am assuming you admire and agree with them. Since you are not man enough to set the record straight, I'll have to do what you do. Pretend I know what you are thinking. You claim you are not angry but you have gone off on Alinsky while giving these other radicals a free pass. Oh, and forget about you dodging the question on why the Tea Party and Republicans who quote Alinsky are okay but not the liberals. You cherry pick your politics. If you really are a teacher, your students must be be morons.

You need to start taking your meds.

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Updated On: 1/30/12 at 09:34 PM

Mikey, you denied saying you said any of those things. I even asked when you said Newt as President (God Forbid)if I was wrong in assuming you liked him. Frankly, I am amazed you answered the question. You keep ignoring the others.Me calling you NOT GAY was your knee jerk explanation to make sure I understood YOU WERE NOT GAY. You even had to throw in the old, "I'm divorced, have two teenage kids,and so on". A simple, "I'm not gay" is all you had to say. You came off as sounding nervous and insecure. I never called you a homophobe. You LIED and said I did. You have lied in every post of yours, why stop now?

I assume you agree with Pat Robertson,Tony Perkins, Bryan Fisher, and all the other pretend Christians.You have not corrected me,and lets face it. You seem to get a hard on for correcting people,even when they are not wrong.You are too big of a coward to answer the question and clear things up, so if anyone here is anti gay I would guess it is you.You said you agree with some of the things Newt says. Do you agree with him on marriage equality? Don't worry, only a real man would have the balls to answer that question. You have run away from questions in this post from the start.

None of what you said makes sense. Why keep responding to me? WHy do you care? I think you know you are full of it and it makes you angry to think I am calling you out. You ego and arrogance won't allow you to stop.

You also won't answer why the Tea Party is allowed to use Alinsky but when Bill Maher makes a joke, you go off on an angry rant and become obsessed with him like a rejected girl friend. You have no answer for it. If you did you would have given one by now.

You are an unfair troll. Highlighting flaws with liberals (Bill Maher) while giving the Tea Party, a group you admire, a free pass.

Great article showing how hypocritical people, like the Tea Party and Mikey are.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/politics/saul-alinsky-comes-to-the-tea.html

http://teapartywest.com/?p=4341

Mikey,you can BS your way through a post all you want. You have kept this thread alive because of your anger and arrogance and your God size ego. You are a lot like Newt,so why you don't like him ore is a mystery to me.You lie and you run away from questions you can't answer.

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Did someone just fart in here?

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Mikey never gives links. Never gives actual data. WOnder why that is. He is SO ARROGANT he just assumes everyone will take him on his word. He is a proven liar and everyone here see's him for what he really is. Look how desperate he is. He thinks I am an idiot (pot meet kettle) yet he still defends himself against me. LOL! WHat a MORON!

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Mikey: "Ironically, the community activist organization ACORN, which practiced the Alinsky method, was brought down by Andrew Breitbart using the Alinsky method."

So, does that make Breitbart a COMMUNIST ??? OMG, you have a commie/socialist/marxist in your ranks !

I assume that you and your ilk know that Obama had spent all of 3 years in his mid-20's as a community organizer and yet you keep harping on it as though he has done nothing else in his life after that. So, let me rephrase my question: why do you keep linking Obama to Saul Alinsky even though it's been a good 27 years since Obama (allegedly) used his methods of community organizing (same ones used by Breitbart and other right-wingers)? Do you think that Obama is channelling Saul Alinsky the way Newt thinks he is channelling his Kenyan father ? Do you think that Obama gets his marching orders from the Saul Alinsky's ghost ? What is it about that link that is supposed to make a right-winger clutch his pearls and faint at the sheer horror of it all ? Can you tell us ?