Will & Grace -- Final Episode

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Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:32pm

I just finished watching season 8 disc 4 of WILL & GRACE from Netflix. Final episode...balled my eyes out.

It's odd because I remember that when I saw the finale when it originally aired, I was very disappointed. But after watching the entire series in chronological order over the past month, it really made much more sense.

When Karen sings the ballad with Jack...a river of tears ran thru my house. SO touching!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnwVHt8lAXs

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Updated On: 12/9/08 at 08:32 PM

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:33pm

I think "Will & Grace" is one of the best sitcoms ever.

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:34pm

So do I.

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re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:39pm

And I still stand by the fact that the finale was the worst in the history of great shows.

Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:41pm

"And I still stand by the fact that the finale was the worst in the history of great shows."

I agree with that. At least in the Top 3 worst.

If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:49pm

Their entire last season, sans a couple of okay episodes (the sing-along Sound of Music was promising), was a major disappointment. Never make your main character pregnant. Ruins the show.

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 9:10pm

That Karen/Jack moment is easily the best of the episode. My main beef with the finale is the same issue I have with the Mad About You finale. I don't see the point of breaking up a couple and having them get back together in the last moments just for some extra drama in the finale. It really puts a damper on the whole storyline of the series.

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 9:13pm

Like many superior TV shows, W&G ran about a year too long.

"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 9:14pm

It was a bit painful that WIll and Grace spent that much time separated. But isn't the what happened with the creator and his real life Grace? I don't think they were speaking when the sitcom started.

#10

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 9:33pm

The last season (at least) was difficult to watch. I felt that the characters that had been so strongly "created" began acting against their very natures making for some completely UNBELIEVABLE scenarios. Not that I expect realism from sitcoms - but if the writers have a history with the characters and they write them to behave in a certain way - breaking character just to suit a plot device is too deus ex machina for me.

"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men" - Willy Wonka

#11

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 9:39pm

I think many sitcoms make the big mistake of going campy for the final season. Roseanne did it to a stronger degree, but I agree, I think they really gave up on the truth behind the comedy that made Will and Grace so marvelous.

#12

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 10:16pm

I am not a fan of final shows in general, but I thought Will & Grace's final show was great. Beat the hell out of Seinfeld & Friends for sure.

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#13

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 10:19pm

Greatest finale in history was Newhart.

"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

#14

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 10:37pm

It was sad for me to see my Eric made up to look like an old man.

"Long live God!" (GODSPELL)

#15

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 10:40pm

Madbrian, it was. I think M*A*S*H was up there, too. I remember seeing it when I was little and asking my mom questions about it for weeks.

Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!

#16

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 10:52pm

In addition to Newhart and MASH, St. Elsewhere had an awesome final scene. It was so creative, surprising and it completely redefined the entire series in one scene.

If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

#17

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 11:25pm

ONe of my favorite, and most underrated, series finales was Ellen's first sitcom. If I remember correctly, there was no mention of her being a lesbian, and it was presented as if Ellen had a vaudeville-esque career. I thought it was a brilliant end to a troubled last season with a lot of bitter feelings.

#18

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/9/08 at 11:38pm

"...balled my eyes out."

The pain must have been excruciating.

#19

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/10/08 at 10:12am

"'...balled my eyes out.'
The pain must have been excruciating."

I can't even bend that way.

#20

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/10/08 at 10:17am

But seriously, I think W&G began to suffer from a syndrome that afflicts a lot of beloved sitcoms: the characters eventually become reduced to one easily pigeonholed characteristic (Will is uptight, Grace is self-involved, Jack is an idiot, Monica is anal, Joey is dumb . . . )

#21

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/10/08 at 10:35am

WILL & GRACE is without a doubt one of the best sitcoms of all time.

#22

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/10/08 at 10:50am

Certainly one of my favorites. I never got why people--especially gay people--ragged on it so much.

#23

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/10/08 at 10:56am

"Certainly one of my favorites. I never got why people--especially gay people--ragged on it so much."

While not my favorite finale, I agree with the ragging sentiment, Reg.
The song with Karen and Jack was a highlight of the entire series.

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#24

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/10/08 at 11:01am

For me, their best episode was the Sing-a-long Sound of Music.

"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson

#25

re: Will & Grace -- Final Episode

Posted: 12/10/08 at 11:08am

It was such a bad episode, but then again the whole season was pretty much a disaster (except for the SOUND OF MUSIC episode). The show had become pretty bad in Season 7 though, I can just remember Stan walking in at the end of that season, it was such a ridiculous gimmick.
I feel there was absolutely no need to "break up" WILL & GRACE. Especially since they did the exact same thing in Season 4 (or 5) when Grace decided to date Leo and they got into that huge argument, one of the most emotional, well-acted moments in the show. The whole episode was completely unoriginal and so far-fetched in a really obnoxious way (Beverly and Jack, for example).

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