Will & Grace -- Final Episode
#2
Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:33pm
I think "Will & Grace" is one of the best sitcoms ever.
#3
Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:34pm
So do I.
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#4
Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:39pm
And I still stand by the fact that the finale was the worst in the history of great shows.
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#5
Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:41pm
"And I still stand by the fact that the finale was the worst in the history of great shows."
I agree with that. At least in the Top 3 worst.
I agree with that. At least in the Top 3 worst.
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#6
Posted: 12/9/08 at 8:49pm
Their entire last season, sans a couple of okay episodes (the sing-along Sound of Music was promising), was a major disappointment. Never make your main character pregnant. Ruins the show.
#7
Posted: 12/9/08 at 9:10pm
That Karen/Jack moment is easily the best of the episode. My main beef with the finale is the same issue I have with the Mad About You finale. I don't see the point of breaking up a couple and having them get back together in the last moments just for some extra drama in the finale. It really puts a damper on the whole storyline of the series.
#8
Posted: 12/9/08 at 9:13pm
Like many superior TV shows, W&G ran about a year too long.
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#9
Posted: 12/9/08 at 9:14pm
It was a bit painful that WIll and Grace spent that much time separated. But isn't the what happened with the creator and his real life Grace? I don't think they were speaking when the sitcom started.
#10
Posted: 12/9/08 at 9:33pm
The last season (at least) was difficult to watch. I felt that the characters that had been so strongly "created" began acting against their very natures making for some completely UNBELIEVABLE scenarios. Not that I expect realism from sitcoms - but if the writers have a history with the characters and they write them to behave in a certain way - breaking character just to suit a plot device is too deus ex machina for me.
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#11
Posted: 12/9/08 at 9:39pm
I think many sitcoms make the big mistake of going campy for the final season. Roseanne did it to a stronger degree, but I agree, I think they really gave up on the truth behind the comedy that made Will and Grace so marvelous.
#12
Posted: 12/9/08 at 10:16pm
I am not a fan of final shows in general, but I thought Will & Grace's final show was great. Beat the hell out of Seinfeld & Friends for sure.
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#13
Posted: 12/9/08 at 10:19pm
Greatest finale in history was Newhart.
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#14
Posted: 12/9/08 at 10:37pm
It was sad for me to see my Eric made up to look like an old man.
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#15
Posted: 12/9/08 at 10:40pm
Madbrian, it was. I think M*A*S*H was up there, too. I remember seeing it when I was little and asking my mom questions about it for weeks.
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#16
Posted: 12/9/08 at 10:52pm
In addition to Newhart and MASH, St. Elsewhere had an awesome final scene. It was so creative, surprising and it completely redefined the entire series in one scene.
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#17
Posted: 12/9/08 at 11:25pm
ONe of my favorite, and most underrated, series finales was Ellen's first sitcom. If I remember correctly, there was no mention of her being a lesbian, and it was presented as if Ellen had a vaudeville-esque career. I thought it was a brilliant end to a troubled last season with a lot of bitter feelings.
#18
Posted: 12/9/08 at 11:38pm
"...balled my eyes out."
The pain must have been excruciating.
The pain must have been excruciating.
#19
Posted: 12/10/08 at 10:12am
"'...balled my eyes out.'
The pain must have been excruciating."
I can't even bend that way.
The pain must have been excruciating."
I can't even bend that way.
#20
Posted: 12/10/08 at 10:17am
But seriously, I think W&G began to suffer from a syndrome that afflicts a lot of beloved sitcoms: the characters eventually become reduced to one easily pigeonholed characteristic (Will is uptight, Grace is self-involved, Jack is an idiot, Monica is anal, Joey is dumb . . . )
#21
Posted: 12/10/08 at 10:35am
WILL & GRACE is without a doubt one of the best sitcoms of all time.
#22
Posted: 12/10/08 at 10:50am
Certainly one of my favorites. I never got why people--especially gay people--ragged on it so much.
#23
Posted: 12/10/08 at 10:56am
"Certainly one of my favorites. I never got why people--especially gay people--ragged on it so much."
While not my favorite finale, I agree with the ragging sentiment, Reg.
The song with Karen and Jack was a highlight of the entire series.
While not my favorite finale, I agree with the ragging sentiment, Reg.
The song with Karen and Jack was a highlight of the entire series.
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#24
Posted: 12/10/08 at 11:01am
For me, their best episode was the Sing-a-long Sound of Music.
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-- Thomas Jefferson
#25
Posted: 12/10/08 at 11:08am
It was such a bad episode, but then again the whole season was pretty much a disaster (except for the SOUND OF MUSIC episode). The show had become pretty bad in Season 7 though, I can just remember Stan walking in at the end of that season, it was such a ridiculous gimmick.
I feel there was absolutely no need to "break up" WILL & GRACE. Especially since they did the exact same thing in Season 4 (or 5) when Grace decided to date Leo and they got into that huge argument, one of the most emotional, well-acted moments in the show. The whole episode was completely unoriginal and so far-fetched in a really obnoxious way (Beverly and Jack, for example).
I feel there was absolutely no need to "break up" WILL & GRACE. Especially since they did the exact same thing in Season 4 (or 5) when Grace decided to date Leo and they got into that huge argument, one of the most emotional, well-acted moments in the show. The whole episode was completely unoriginal and so far-fetched in a really obnoxious way (Beverly and Jack, for example).
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