Wisconsin Dem. Senators fight back

[fingerlakessinger]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators fight back#1

Posted: 2/18/11 at 1:07am

I am very happy that the Dem's are showing more backbone. The GOP is a party that claim's to be "for the people" yet they are trying to pass a bill that would do harm to countless working families. Due to this, the Wis. Dem senators refused to show up to the hearing, blocking any advance on the proceedings.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wisconsin_budget_unions

"Life in theater is give and take...but you need to be ready to give more then you take..."

Updated On: 2/18/11 at 01:07 AM

[TimesSquareRegular]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators fight back#2

Posted: 2/18/11 at 8:17am

According to Rachel Maddow, the three unions that would be affected by this proposed legislation are the three unions that DIDN'T support the newly-elected Republican governor.

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[ErikJ972]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators fight back#2

Posted: 2/18/11 at 8:36am

I wish Democrats would show that kind of backbone on a National level. I'm looking at you Obama.

[Gothampc]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#3

Posted: 2/18/11 at 8:59am

Go pedal your brand of crazy somewhere else. The Democrats left the state. They were too scared to stand up and debate the issue.

If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

[ErikJ972]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#4

Posted: 2/18/11 at 9:34am

Yes Goth...taking a page right of the GOP playbook. Finally!!!

[uncageg]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#5

Posted: 2/18/11 at 9:35am

I agree with Erik's national level comment.

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[violet72]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#6

Posted: 2/18/11 at 9:52am

I see this happening in NJ in a couple of months...actually I am kinda hoping for it to happen

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life. Define yourself"

[brdlwyr]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#7

Posted: 2/18/11 at 10:00am

I love it! The Governor and GOP are sneaking a union buster provision. This is NOT about the state budget, but an attempt to destroy the unions who support Democrats!

[Unknown User]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#8

Posted: 2/18/11 at 10:29am

This fight has NOTHING to do with budget deficits and EVERYTHING to do with busting the unions. From the Madison, WI, paper:

A Jan. 31 memo from the Legislative Fiscal Bureau estimates the state will actually finish the fiscal year on June 30 with a $56 million surplus. That is $54 million more than state administrators estimated and far more than the $137 million in red ink that Darling and Vos refer to.

Neither Vos, R-Rochester, nor Darling, R-River Hills, responded to requests for comment for this report, but those accounting differences have Democrats claiming Republicans are overstating the depth of the problem to push a hard-right agenda and break public worker unions.

"In our conversations with the non-partisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau, it has become blatantly evident Governor Walker has manifested this fiscal crisis as a Trojan horse in order to enact unfair public policy in the name of fixing the budget," says state Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Madison.

Scot Ross of the left-leaning group One Wisconsin Now went a step further, calling the Walker plan a "handout in special interest spending to his corporate pals."

Ross was referring to $117.2 million in tax breaks approved by the Republican-controlled Legislature in January. Those items making health savings accounts tax deductible, tax deductions for businesses that relocate and tax exclusions for hiring new employees.

Ross and others have said those tax breaks alone have created the shortfall through the end of this budget cycle that Darling and Vos have cited. But the $117.2 million figure cited by the Fiscal Bureau refers to the cost of those tax breaks over the next 2.5 years, not just the next few months.


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[violet72]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#9

Posted: 2/18/11 at 11:11am

This opinion sums it up....this is a good explanation why teacher's have unions and yes it is from the NEA but my dad was a teacher before tenure and the union was strong and he said tis is all true
makes sense

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[Unknown User]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#10

Posted: 2/18/11 at 11:17am

John Boehner is shocked- SHOCKED!- to hear that Democratic organizations are helping the protesters.

“I’m disappointed that instead of providing similar leadership from the White House, the president has chosen to attack leaders such as Gov. Walker, who are listening to the people and confronting problems that have been neglected for years at the expense of jobs and economic growth,” Boehner said in a statement. “I urge the president to order the DNC to suspend these tactics.”

Hypocrisy, thy name is REPUBLICAN.
DNC playing role in WI Protests

[violet72]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#11

Posted: 2/18/11 at 11:23am

This is nothing but Class warfare. It has been happening for the past year in NJ. Turn the middle class against eachother (blame teachers and unions for the recession)and the rich will capitalize(did away with the millionaire's tax) I am so sick of it...good for WI really wish this could be nationwide for people to understand how we are being demonized by the GOP

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life. Define yourself"

[Unknown User]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#12

Posted: 2/18/11 at 11:30am

Yes Violet. The GOP has managed to convince their constituents that union members are over paid, lazy pigs sucking at the public teat at the expense of those poor millionaires who are being taxed to death.

[violet72]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#13

Posted: 2/18/11 at 11:54am

An example...NJ governor giving tax amnesty to Coperations that have hard ships paying taxes.
"Administration officials say the rule would be applied on a "case-by-case" basis and in "rare instances." Officials said, for example, the rule could be used in a dispute over a tax assessed or if a business is simply struggling with bills."

So in other words his friends will be gettng tax breaks and he will be getting money for his re election
thanks

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life. Define yourself"

[brdlwyr]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#14

Posted: 2/18/11 at 12:54pm

Boner should shut his pie hole and go back to his tea bagger caucus.

[Gothampc]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#15

Posted: 2/18/11 at 12:58pm

Obama should shut his pie hole. With the federal government being trillions of dollars in debt, he has more to do than stick his nose in business that concerns a state.

If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

[jasonf]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#16

Posted: 2/18/11 at 12:58pm

I said it a year ago when Christie came in, and I'm still saying it now -- it's only a matter of time before the next Civil War starts. My wife has called me crazy for saying it. Today, after seeing what's happening in WI, she's finally said "You might be right about a war coming."

Hi, Shirley Temple Pudding.

[violet72]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#17

Posted: 2/18/11 at 1:36pm

Well someone needs to stick up for the middle class cause the GOP isn't. The people who belong to these unions are middle class and the GOP wants to take their rights away. I am happy Obama actually stuck up for the middle class and wish he would grow a set and do it more

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life. Define yourself"

[TheatreDiva90016]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#18

Posted: 2/18/11 at 1:39pm

"he has more to do than stick his nose in business that concerns a state."


He has every right to stick his nose in where hard working people are getting screwed by Republcans.

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[Almira]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#19

Posted: 2/18/11 at 2:11pm

I keep saying to myself, "Inhale and savor the pride you feel for the Dems and the brave people fighting to preserve the real backbone of this country: labor."

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[ErikJ972]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#20

Posted: 2/18/11 at 2:15pm

I'm just glad to see people are finally waking up. Boner looks like he's getting nervous!

[romantico]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#21

Posted: 2/18/11 at 2:26pm

Rachel Maddow GOP goal bake sales vs. billionaires

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJcdIyaNNQ4

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[fingerlakessinger]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#22

Posted: 2/18/11 at 4:21pm

Anyone else find it kinda funny how Goth is condemning the dem's for "running away"
Goth, thats ALL YOU DO

And yea, when the bill that screws many hard working families is about to be passed and the options are limited, they should run. But I would not even call it "running away" that would imply they have no plan, and are scared. They are taking a stand against a bunch of redneck hicks who somehow became elected into office and saying "Eff you guys, we're not letting this happen"

"Life in theater is give and take...but you need to be ready to give more then you take..."

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#23

Posted: 2/18/11 at 5:02pm

This obviously means that Goth is against Boehner's threatened government shutdown, right?

[Yawper]

Wisconsin Dem. Senators flee the state#24

Posted: 2/18/11 at 9:45pm

It's weird seeing what's playing out on the national level so much of what Michigan's been went through since 2000. We finally got rid of our obnoxious, obstructionist GOP Senate leader last election cycle and things have been so much more civil since then.

Boehner's scared because Ohio's watching and responding to what's happening in Wisconsin. We'll see how far they take it.
Updated On: 2/18/11 at 09:45 PM