Wisconsin Dem. Senators fight back — Page 2

I don't understand why the Tea Party is for this bill...aren't they suppose to be against government interference? What a bunch of hypocrites

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MSNBC's Ed Schultz To Rush Limbaugh: 'Wrap Your Fat Ass In The Flag' Over Wisconsin Protests

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErkBkxWNbxI

God I LOVE Big Ed!!!! Rush will be crying and pouting about this on Monday.

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madbrian - to some extent I agree with you, but your ideal doesn't take something into account: the GOP doesn't play fair. For so long the Democrats have been rolling over and taking all their shenanigans, all the cheating and lying and abuses of power. Obama tried for two years to reach across the aisle for bipartisanship's sake, and got nowhere. The GOP got back in power, and in turn are abusing it again. If the Democrats don't stand up and DO something, the GOP machine is just going to keep running roughshod over the Democrats and worse, the average person.

For better or worse, the Democrats are supposed to be standing up for the average person. The GOP corporate axis has been in control for too long, and I'm GLAD the Democrats are finally doing something, even if it's a little "dirty politics."

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Stolen from Facebook:

Are you sick of high paid teachers? Teachers’ hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or 10 months a year! It’s time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - baby sit! We can get that for less than minimum wage.



That’s right. Let’s give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM

with 45 min. off for lunch and plan — that equals 6 1/2 hours).



Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children.



Now how many do they teach in day…maybe 30? So that’s $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.



LET’S SEE…. That’s $585 X 180= $105,300 peryear. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).



What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master’s degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children

X 180 days = $280,800 per year.



Wait a minute — there’s something wrong here! There sure is!



The average teacher’s salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student–a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!)



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We exchange higher paying salaries for our pensions. Pay us more, and we'll gladly pay more into pensions and health care. We went into our job KNOWING we wouldn't make much, but that we'd be taken care of as far as benefits go.

Here's the thing - people keep attacking teachers yet decry the state of education in this country. Maybe if teachers were shown more respect by other adults, kids would show teachers respect and we'd be better able to do our jobs. Instead, we're attacked by parents who think they know better, politicians who think they know better, and right wingers who think they know better. What model do kids have to look at that says "Hey, maybe we should respect our teachers - they're smart people who are trying to help us?"

Teachers should be paid MORE, not less. They should be shown respect, not constantly dragged through the mud in the press and in dining rooms throughout the country.

No wonder our educational system is so bad.

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Updated On: 2/20/11 at 04:32 PM

Wisconsin made a contract with their teachers. That's not an analogy, it's a literal fact. If Wisconsin can no longer afford the terms of that contract (a debatable assertion) then they can go back and attempt to renegotiate. In fact, the Teacher's union has offered to do just that- and take cuts that are about equal to what this bill demands. But Walker won't accept that- he want the unions destroyed. And not just in Wisconsin: this is the first offense in a national push to kill all unions by public employees.
Some right wing rag spells it out- this is just the beginning

I'm just gonna say it, the GOP are HORRIBLE. Seriously, I know that Democrats are not flaw-free, but at least they want to help America and it's population. The majority of the GOP is out for their own benefits. Most are not honest people (I think Politicians in general are disgusting but Republicans take the cake) and they make nothing but bogus bills and try to pass harmful laws. I hope one day the GOP is completely washed out and cant obtain any power. Sadly, as long as idiots and morons are born, chances are we will have the likes of these wackos in office.
*Not meant to offend anyone, when I say GOP, I mean the creeps such as the one's who are pushing this bill, the DOMA, and many other crap idea's*

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Jason I know two pretty much lifelong Republicans who are horrified by this situation. It was pretty awkward to even discuss it because they were so disgusted by Governor Walker's actions. This could very well be a bridge too far for the Republicans.

Wisc. Gov. Scott Walker, in press conference, says he won'taccept compromise on bill targeting union bargaining rights - AP

On another note to show your support for the protestors in Wisconsin: "Wear Red for Ed" to support public education beginning Tuesday, February 22nd , and every Tuesday this spring...Pass this along and invite more people

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