clinton vs. sanders your vote?- Page 24

[StageManager2]

Posted: 8/18/15 at 1:03pm

She really handled that like a champ. I challenge any other candidate running to go toe to toe with angry activists and not only hold their own, but offer responses thoughtful enough to actually challenge the activists' POV - all without sticking her foot in her mouth or pissing them off. Not one of the Republicans could do it, and was have seen twice that Sanders couldn't either.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 8/18/15 at 2:09pm

Sanders hasn't had the chance to yet, but he is scheduled to meet with Deray McKesson and others later this week. He also hired someone active in the movement as his press secretary.

I found Clinton's reaction wince worthy...but she handled it better than when she's asked about the Keystone pipeline.

Bernie Sanders New Press Secretary Talks Black Lives Matter Movement and Advice to Young Voters

http://www.blackenterprise.com/career/bernie-sanders-press-secretary-black-lives-matter-advice-young-voters/

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/18/15 at 5:26pm

Nothing wince-worthy about it.

[South Florida]

Posted: 8/18/15 at 6:38pm

This is going to be a fascinating campaign season.  I'm in the Sanders camp by far, but I like Hilary, she has "balls, I like, balls." -  Go Team America PRS

[Steve C.]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 8:19am

I'm really starting to get angry over all this email crap that republicans keep dumping on Clinton. If this is all standard practice, why don't they get Colin Powell"s or Condoleeza  Rice's servers and emails. This is just another juicy story for the networks to jump on. The news media coverage is just so much trash these days, Trump praising and Clinton bashing sells more advertising.   

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 8:54am

I'm really starting to get angry over all this email crap that republicans keep dumping on Clinton.

 

The FBI is not a political party or entity. The AG's office is not a political party or entity. Both have open investigations/probes on this. 

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 9:00am

I agree the email thing is about nothing. And the media's fixation on it is frustrating considering there are so many important issues to talk about. But Clinton needs to find a better way to handle it. Her current strategy is not working.

Updated On: 8/19/15 at 09:00 AM

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 9:09am

If Sanders could actually be smart about winning, he would go after her on this. The polls do not lie. We cannot have presidential candidates who are prone to investigations and probes by non-partisan government agencies like the Inspector General's office, the Attorney General's office, and the FBI. You want to talk about corporate corruption, special interest greed and "above the law" snobbery? That's Hillary Clinton. 

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 9:13am

I appreciate that Sanders is NOT going after her on this. His campaign continues to focus on issues, not sideshow distractions. It's one of the things I admire about him. 

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 9:15am

Except that his primary competitor is the antithesis of his campaign's message and values. I suppose he is just hoping Democrats are smart enough to make the connection on their own.... 

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 9:19am

"Except that his primary competitor is the antithesis of his campaign's message and values."

Yes. And I think the Sanders campaign has been good at pointing that out without using media manufactured controversy. 

 

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 12:25pm

Liza's Headband said: "You want to talk about corporate corruption, special interest greed and "above the law" snobbery? That's Hillary Clinton."

Eh. No, it's not. You may hate her, but that doesn't make any of that true.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 1:11pm

Keep in mind, the Banned is upset Bernie won't "go after" her. Going After people is the only behavior he understands. 

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 2:23pm

Funny, Bernie was just talking about this.  "I'm not going to get into the game."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGv2SPB8pNU

Updated On: 8/19/15 at 02:23 PM

[HorseTears]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 2:25pm

ErikJ972 said: "I agree the email thing is about nothing. And the media's fixation on it is frustrating considering there are so many important issues to talk about. But Clinton needs to find a better way to handle it. Her current strategy is not working."

 

Yes, apparently some of Hillary's allies feel the same way.  Politico suggests there are parallels to the way Hillary handled the old Whitewater investigation as well.  The main criticism being that she's perhaps handling this growing issue (I think it's a bit too soon to call it a crisis) more like a lawyer than like a political candidate.  

 

Updated On: 8/19/15 at 02:25 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 3:04pm

 

I actually think she's "handling" it fine. She has learned that people like the Headband and the media and the Hillary-haters are like the Boys Who Cried Wolf. They treat everything she does like it's the Final Straw that will finally, finally, finally, at long last, be her undoing.

 

Except that it never is because she actually hasn't done anything wrong.

 

And the people who will ultimately vote for her--women and minorities--know that when someone is being hounded, surviving is character. All she has to do is survive. And if she loses her cool every once in a while, the voters--women and minorities--will still support her, because sometimes we lose our cool too and under the circumstances, who wouldn't? (And isn't it remarkable how she maintains her cool? I couldn't!)

 

So she will survive all the trumped-up charges, she will survive all the silly Headbands who foam at the mouth about her every move ("Corruption! Greed! Snobbery!", and she will be our next and greatest president.

 

Updated On: 8/19/15 at 03:04 PM

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 3:13pm

 and she will be our next and greatest president.

Especially if you're an executive of Citigroup!

[StageManager2]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 4:36pm

"Republicans have been successful in using the email scandal to lower Clinton’s approval ratings, but those lower approval ratings have not translated into Clinton trailing any of her potential Republican opponents in general election matchups.

The takeaway from this data is that even if voters believe that Hillary Clinton did something wrong with her emails, the majority of them are still going to vote for her in November 2016.

In other words, voters don’t care about Hillary Clinton’s emails."

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08/19/republicans-reeling-poll-shows-voters-care-hillary-clinton-emails.html

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 5:02pm

...and she will be our next and greatest president.

 

She will never be greater than Abraham f*cking Lincoln. Far too corrupt. In the pockets of far too many bank execs and wall street cronies and special interest lobbyists. 

[JerseyGirl2]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 5:14pm

No president will ever be better than the idea of Abraham f*cking Lincoln because he led the nation in a time before we got to see the ugly innards of the political world. We know exactly whose pockets politicians are in now. We catch their every lie. We know their every indiscretion. People can and do romanticize leaders of the past when we all know history is viewed through rose colored glasses, at best. 

Updated On: 8/19/15 at 05:14 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 6:23pm

Liza's Headband said: "She will never be greater than Abraham f*cking Lincoln. Far too corrupt. In the pockets of far too many bank execs and wall street cronies and special interest lobbyists."

 

 

Please respond to me civilly or don't respond to me at all, you f*cking f*ckhead.

Updated On: 8/19/15 at 06:23 PM

[South Florida]

Posted: 8/19/15 at 6:59pm

I'm still mad at Bill.

Updated On: 8/19/15 at 06:59 PM

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 8/20/15 at 8:52am

"VINEYARD HAVEN, Mass. – Memo to 2016 candidates from Black Lives Matter: We will continue to disrupt your events no matter what you do or say, and we won’t stop anytime soon.

There’s more. The movement, whose angry exchange with Hillary Clinton was revealed this week following an earlier shout-down of Bernie Sanders, has a potential new target: Barack Obama.

He may be the first black president, but he won’t be immune, said #Blacklivesmatter network co-founder Patrisse Cullors in an interview with POLITICO on Martha’s Vineyard, the president’s vacation spot, where she is participating this week in racial-justice panels.

Cullors insists that her network, which has 26 chapters around the country and is growing, won’t back off, even as candidates plea for a chance to be heard. That’s because the protests aren’t aimed only at the candidates, but more so at the predominantly white crowds that come out to see them."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/no-plans-to-stop-says-black-lives-matter-121538.html#ixzz3jMKfz62G
 

Updated On: 8/20/15 at 08:52 AM

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/20/15 at 9:03am

Speaking of the BLM Movement.... 

 

NY Times: Activist Shaun King Denies Claims He Lied About Race and Assault?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/20/15 at 9:10am

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