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#1

would shoshana have won the tony?

what do you reckon, if she were in the original cast...?
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#3

re: would shoshana have won the tony?

As I've said in about two dozen other times, anyone with even the slightest amount of gusto, originating the green witch, would have at least been nominated for the role of Elphaba. It was the *role* that got the acclaim, not the actress. Truth hurts, flame away.
#4

re: would shoshana have won the tony?

No, I dont think so at all. She would have been nominated, no doubt. ut she wouldn't have won.
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#5

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That's such a difficult question, because Wicked might not be what it is today if the casting was different. So much of the "success" of Wicked has to do with the original cast, creating the material to suit their skills, how they interpreted the material, and the fanbase they had coming into the Broadway premiere. If Idina were out and Shoshana were in, everything would have been completely different. The "riffs" that Sho does would be expected instead of "extras." Some of the songs would potentially be in different keys or even completely different material. Who knows, it might have even bombed. The critics didn't really like the show, but all pretty much raved about what Idina and Kristen brought to the show. The chemistry might not have worked the same between Sho and Kristen and it could have been completely slammed by the critics.

Could have been better . . . like I said, it's difficult to say what would have happened.

Sorry, that went around in circles!!!
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#6

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I seccond what Hanna said as well.
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"People who like Sondheim enjoy cruelty."-LuvtheEmcee
#10

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She definatly would have won it!
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#11

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I think Tonya should have won, now.

But, no. Shoshana has the charisma of a paper bag.

Although, that plastic bag stole "American Beauty" from Kevin Spacey.

What am I talking about? That was a PLASTIC bag.

#12

re: would shoshana have won the tony?

I think her lack of previous Broadway credits would have hurt. Wasn't Idina also nominated for RENT?
#13

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I wonder if Bean would have gotten quite the same cult following- she's not a Rent graduate, which seems to raise actors to the level of demigods in the eyes of a certain set of fans.
#15

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"Shoshana has the charisma of a paper bag."

Easily one of the best sentences I have read on these boards in ages.
And hang on, when did you win the discus?
#16

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It was a role Idina had a lot of time to work on and make her own. I think Kristin would have got it had Idina not been so good!
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#17

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Absolutely not. She has zero charisma, and even less acting ability.
#19

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i liked both of them, but prefered Shoshana's performance more. i think she did more with it, adding to Elphaba's personality. but hey, to each their own.
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#20

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Thanks, bts.

Beer - I don't think Kristin had a shot in hell at that Tony.

Tonya would have (should have) won if Idina didn't.

Well, Kristin would have won because she's Kristin Chenoweth. But the woman won a Tony already for a role not too far from the role of Glinda. She has yet to shown much versatility...though I think she is brilliant.
#21

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If Idina wasn't in the picture, Tonya probably would've won. If not, then probably Donna. THEN Kristin.

And Al, that's not the "truth," and I'm sure you'd know that if you saw someone other than Menzel play the role. The role (and as a result...the show) is UTTERLY boring without all the depth and character that Menzel brought into it. What was so great about her performance is that that boring as hell role was turned into something pretty darn exciting because she brought so much that ISN'T in the script to begin with.

Shoshana performs the role as written. She reads lines, sings songs, and adds no depth to the character. Just what's there to begin with.
#22

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Not to get way off topic.

But Donna Murphy was only nominated because she was DONNA MURPHY, a performer who does now wrong in the critics eyes. I believe even before the Tonys, she was still missing a lot of performances.

I think a MUCH better question is. If Brooke Shields would've been nominated? Considering she got across the board rave reviews. I think that would be an interesting question.

Updated On: 9/20/05 at 03:36 PM

#23

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That is a better question, ljay. I didn't see Brooke Shields though, so I couldn't base my opinion on much.
#24

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Saycon, IMO, was magical in the role!

BUUT....how many times are replacements better or just as good as the original?

Many times.

Here's the thing, the original usually has to start from scratch - not that taking over is easy...

But after hearing/seeing Tonya - I think she deserved it. For one, the role is much better. Then again, Idina made a drab role look drabless-er. re: would shoshana have won the tony?

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