A Chorus Line Lotto Rigged- Page 3

[musicalsFan]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:18pm

There are always these theatre wannabees who will blindly follow their beloved cast members to the ends of the earth. These cast members can do no wrong in their eyes.

Gotta love it!

[WaltSummersPI]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:19pm

Less than $1000 a week. Wow. What a pity.

[ben4]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:19pm

I guess the problem to me is that this just symbolizes where B-way is heading. I mean last time I checked the actors/writers/directors are performing to entertain/provoke the audience... not the "broadway community."

Does it really matter if Charlotte D'Amboise's mom gets to see Chorus Line for the twelth time for 25 bucks? Is that what the lottery is really there for?

Call me a romantic, but I always thought it existed to give the disadvantaged future generation of artists/performers an oppurtunity to see what all the fuss over this live-theatre thing's about.

But I suppose we won't have August Wilson's or Ethel Merman's in the "new broadway." Just a lot of rich upperclass elitists.

[Born To Reign]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:21pm

I don't see what you're getting at ben (not trying to incite, I just didn't get what your point of view was from your post)

Is this so much different from the Legally Blonde fangirls getting there at 6am every day? Is student rush there so the same group of annoying airheads can see the show 100 times?

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:21pm

Thes, don't forget dance lessons and vocal lessons. The ACL Playbill states that their company members pay close to $7,000/month for DANCE lessons. Vocal lessons can be $50-100/hr sometimes. Add acting lessons to that was well sometimes..
without getting onto equity dues, I will say that an agent takes 10% of pay, if you have a manager, take away another 15-20%... AEA takes 2% of your salary as 'working dues'.. that all is BEFORE taxes...
They don't make a whole lot. And the fact that the cast isn't filled with 'names'.. they won't be making much above minimum.

No one forces them to do it... but no one forces you to be jerk to them either.



musicalsfan,
no one is speaking as a 'wannabe' or as someone who thinks cast members are perfect... believe me.

And who said that someone's mother seen it XX amount of times? Most of that line is leaving in less than a month... perhaps they have family and friends who still haven't seen them? A LOT of people have family and friends who don't, or can't, flock to the first perfromance... In an ideal world they couldn't. But if I booked a Broadway show today and started in a month, my family wouldn't be able to afford a trip here that fast.. and I wouldn't be able to afford to pay for them to go either!

Bitter, party of... *counts posts on this thread*

Updated On: 6/27/07 at 02:21 PM

[musicalsFan]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:26pm

bitter? Hardly.

Indignant. You bet.

Hypocrisy is what this is about.

[WaltSummersPI]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:26pm

What does how much the actors make have to do with whether or not their families should be allowed to get tickets under the auspices of playing the lotto?

[ben4]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:27pm

But their wages are besides the point. Even if they were paying to be in the show, how does it negate the fact that this policy is in place to make them seem better than any regular paying customer?

If you were in line at the store and were picking up a pumpkin pie that was on sale 2 days before Thanksgivings Day (Hmmmm, I'm so hungry!), and right as you reached the front of the line, the person working the counter (who's getting minimum wage) said, "Sorry, this last pie is reserved for my family" wouldn't you feel cheated?

[Born To Reign]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:27pm

I'm so not bitter. I'm not an aspiring actor or singer, nor am I a jerk. I just don't think that's an excuse. I don't make a lot either. It doesn't mean I think lottos should be rigged in my favor. If I want my parents to come visit me in the city, we book them a hotel. If they want their parents to come see them, they buy them a ticket or play by the rules. Call me stickler, but I don't think fairness is the same as jerkiness. I agree with everyone who says that if show policy was for them to be able to hold lotto seats, fine. Just don't lie to us.

[Thesbijean]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:29pm

Because people were saying that the actors make enough that they can buy a billion house seats for their families. Just isn't the case...

[WaltSummersPI]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:30pm

No one is arguing that it's okay for the families to get the discount. (Although, I've never heard of it done before.)

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:32pm

They can use any discount out there...

Someone is whining beause they didn't get the last cookie. It's sad.

Must be an only child. Give me a break. You didn't get a ticket.. no matter who got it.

[WaltSummersPI]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:33pm

Maybe we could hear from someone (aside from Thes) who doesn't have an ACL cast member in their avatar who wants to defend this?

[Born To Reign]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:34pm

I don't know if that was directed at me, but I'm totally not an only child. Middle of 5. So if anyone knows about not getting the last cookie, it's me. And I've only done ACL lotto twice. And won both times. So I really don't care at all.

[musicalsFan]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:34pm

broadwayguy2,

You just don't get it. Sad.

And if you chose not to see the hypocrisy of the situation, then I feel sorry for you.

You'll run into more of this as you get older, and one of those days, you'll be "whining" to your friends about how you were treated.
Updated On: 6/27/07 at 02:34 PM

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:34pm

what does an avatar matter? Once again, people have to LOOk for something to b!tch about.

[musicalsFan]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:36pm

broadwayguy2 sees no evil, hears no evil, speaks no evil
not about his precious ACL cast members

[WaltSummersPI]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:36pm

I was just implying that you aren't exactly unbiased.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:37pm

How can I see hypocrasy that isn't there? They said that they are giving away seats at $20.. which they do.

[Anakela]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:37pm

If you buy a ticket for the $$$ lottery, do they tell you how many tickets they sold before they draw? I mean.. really...

I don't think this is the right analogy...if I buy a Mega Millions (or whatever real lottery) ticket no, I don't know how many other people have bought tickets. However, I DO know that the lottery commission or whoever has rules/safeguards in place so that when the time for the drawing comes, so-and-so's relative doesn't have her ticket pulled by someone who has set it all up ahead of time- my one ticket chance is just as good as someone else's one ticket chance.


re: ACL lotto- It's not the # of people in the drawing, or the # of seats- sell two seats, sell twenty seats, sell two hundred lotto seats, whatever. It's the telling people "we have a lotto here," when in reality you're just selling lotto seats to predetermined patrons, that is the part that is not right.


(although in all fairness- I have won the ACL Lotto twice now, once being Tonys weekend, and both times names were pulled in front of everyone)

[LeaGirl]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:39pm

I actually don't see anything wrong with the cast members nipping a ticket or two from the lotto... pool. I just wish they'd do it before they draw.

[Thesbijean]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:40pm

If the guy who started this post had WON the lottery that night, would he have still posted his complaint about how not all tickets were drawn at random? No, of course not.

That's the issue here, an upset theatregoer didn't get tickets for him and his partner. Boo hoo.
Updated On: 6/27/07 at 02:40 PM

[WaltSummersPI]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:41pm

Here's the hypocrisy.

Definition (Webster's) of a lottery: an event or affair whose outcome is or seems to be determined by chance

If every ticket isn't determined by chance, it ain't a lotto.

[bjh2114]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:41pm

OK Walt, I will speak up then. Frankly what you are all saying is absolutely retarded. Thes and Broadwayguy are totally right. Does it suck that you didn't win the ticket? Yes. Does that mean you have to go and bash the whole system and yell "CONSPIRACY"? NO! Get over it. So you didn't win the ticket. Grow up. Try again another day. ACL is one of the easiest lotteries to win (I have won 4 out of 5 times tried). And I know you are all going to say "But that's not the point. It's the principal." SHOVE IT. They are doing you a favor by even having lottery tickets. Some of those castmember's families are flying in from far away to see them before they leave on the 22nd. Maybe you should be a little more sensitive.

[Kalimba]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:41pm

Why am I not surprised it happened when Alisan Porter was in attendance? First slacking off on stage, now this. I'm glad she's leaving the show.