A Chorus Line Lotto Rigged- Page 4

[WaltSummersPI]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:42pm

bjh, you're missing the point. I don't care if they get the tickets. It's how the whole thing is done that is stupid.

And for the record, I have no stake in this at all. I saw ACL a few weeks ago, and found it okay, but not worth seeing again.

[ben4]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:45pm

"I actually don't see anything wrong with the cast members nipping a ticket or two from the lotto... pool. I just wish they'd do it before they draw."- Leagirl

That seems to be the general sentiment. It's not that we have a problem with the actor's themselves getting discounted tickets for their families. It's just that as paying customers we don't appreciate being lied to.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:46pm

What does Tyler have to do with show management and tickets? NOTHING. Check the show review(s) I posted.. I found lots to like and plenty that I took them to task for..


"Definition (Webster's) of a lottery: an event or affair whose outcome is or seems to be determined by chance"

Okay? And? People got tickets that way, didn't they? You just wish that MORE had. was it "fixed" for everyone? No? People got seats y fair drawing..

Of course SOMEONE has to trash a specific cast member for it. Grow up. EVERYONE does this.. why single out Alisan? If a show has lotto, odds are this happens. Why are you acting likes some huge, new deal that vilates everything? It's not. Alisan is leaving.. she has people that want to see her. Oh well. You stil have a chance to win seats...

[Patti LuPone FANatic]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:46pm

I don't feel that the person who brought this issue up is whining. He has a legitimate concern about the process. When a show does something different than what it advertises, there is cause for concern. If they want to sell x number of tickets to cast family members/friends, they have every right to do that. But if a show is going to have a legitimate lottery, then the tickets that are offered should be done so in an open manner.... where the results haven't been pre-determined. One hopes that ACL makes the necessary changes. from RC in Austin, Texas.. the official Patti LuPone FANatic...

[bjh2114]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:46pm

From my own post Walt:
"And I know you are all going to say "But that's not the point. It's the principal.""

Get over it. Sure maybe they SHOULD give those tickets away before the drawing, but they DIDN'T. What's past is past. Get over it. Has anyone else even noticed that the original poster hasn't commented since the first post? Just saying.

[Fosse76]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:48pm

What you people are forgetting is that the show is in charge of the lottery, and essentially the person running it is the person who controls it. And you are acting as if at every performance they give these tickets away to the cast. What is really happening is that a cast member has someone who wants to see the show, and goes to the lottery with that person. As a courtesy, the lottery person might decide to pull this castmember's name or friend's name because they are nice, or as maybe a co-worker courtesy. And just the opposite may be true. I've heard one lottery person at a certain show try his/her best to avoid pulling a certain name, fan-wise and cast-wise.

We are talking about the theatre, don't forget, where it is who you know. If the lottery person wants someone to win, then what is it to you. You still have a shot at winning no matter what. At most shows, the number of available seats change as it is. Who cares.

As for house seats...there are a certain number reserved at each performance for various reasons, and they are not always available. I remember a posting here a few years ago where someone saw Stephanie Block entering the Wicked lotto in LA because she couldn't even get tickets t the show she was starring in! If I ran that lottery I assure you I would have drawn her name.

[Thesbijean]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:48pm

He;s probably been drafting his letter to the Schoenfeld...

[Kelly2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:48pm

I'm not going to say anything in either side, but as a fact, I can say that 4/5 times I've been at Chorus Line lotto, Alisan Porter has been there "doing lottery" for her friends, and has always won.

That's all I know.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:50pm

Amen Fosse. I have WATCHED someone at a lottery draw a particular name, see it before it came out of the bucket, and drop it back in....

Kelly,
Ken Alan has been out 3/4th of the times I have seen the show. Does that mean he is trying to avoid me? No.. Just the luck of the day I went.

[ben4]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:51pm

"I'm not going to say anything in either side, but as a fact, I can say that 4/5 times I've been at Chorus Line lotto, Alisan Porter has been there "doing lottery" for her friends, and has always won. "

Lol, hahaha. This just gets better and better.

[ben4]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:53pm

"Ken Alan has been out 3/4th of the times I have seen the show. Does that mean he is trying to avoid me?"

Hmmm, I wouldn't be soo sure...

[bjh2114]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:53pm

That's funny Kelly cause 4/5 times I was at the lotto, Alisan wasn't even in the show that night. And on those nights, no castmember's families won. THAT MUST BE IT! SHE MUST BE THE HEAD OF THE CONSPIRACY!!! *rolls eyes*

[Fosse76]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:53pm

"He;s probably been drafting his letter to the Schoenfeld..."

Even if the management at the Schoenfeld had any say in the lottery (which they don't, since it is run by the show), what can they do? Someone said she is an usher, right? If so, she is protected by the union, and there is nothing in the lotto policy indicating the number of seats that are lotteried off. As I posted above, the decision is the lottery persons to make. The cast cannot force her to draw those names.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:54pm

Maybe I should gripe about the days I have walked past certain theatres and seen cast members stading on the rush line saving seats for their friends... how dare they? They WORK there. They didn't show up because they WANTED to. It's not for people who know them to see the show.. it's for ME....

It's an empty, hollow arguement like a five year old saying "because I wanna"

[nygrl23]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:54pm

Late to the party as usual but

>My problem has nothing to do with the families getting tickets. That's totally cool (although I've never heard of it being done before.) My problem is them doing it AT lottery, and making everyone else at lotto think they've got a chance, when a certain amount of seats are already reserved.<

I totally agree with this. Why go through the motions of it if the seats are already a lock? If performers can't get seats for fam/friends unless they pay full price, then the lotto is a fine loophole, I'm sure. But taking half the seats, in full view of observant, long-waiting bystanders no less, is b.s. Work the system if you really have to but don't overdo it.

[WaltSummersPI]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:55pm

Agreed with nygrl. It just makes the performers look stupid when stuff like this gets posted.

[Kelly2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:56pm

Hey, hey, chill. I'm not saying it's a conspiracy. All I'm saying is what I saw. I have NO problem with cast members doing lottery, I helped a cast member win tickets for her family to sit in the front row at RENT a few months back. I think everyone should have a chance to sit in the front row or the lotto seats.

I actually think it's very nice of Alisan or whoever to help their friends out if they want to see the show. Just because they're friends of actors doesn't mean they can afford 111$ a ticket. And just because you're an actor, doesn't mean you can afford to knock 500$ out of your paycheck that week so your family can come see the show.

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:57pm

Blame management.. do you know how long it takes to get a ticket request through? Even for a lottery seat?". If it is elatively last minute, you only have a few options to do that..

seat requests have to be filled out, submitted, then approved, then transfered from management to appropriate box office staff, then processed... it's not like walking up to a window and getting a ticket in two minutes. You have to jump through hoops.

[nygrl23]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 2:58pm

totally OT but re: what actors make...I did character voices for an animated show that raked in tons of money for the suits. A typical paycheck for me, however, didn't even cover a Con Edison bill. If I wanted a toy or something for my nephew, do you think they'd comp me one? No. Suits are greedy because they're fearful because they're angry inside because they're sad because mommy and daddy didn't read them the Poky Little Puppy often enough.
Updated On: 6/27/07 at 02:58 PM

[WaltSummersPI]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 3:00pm

Oh, yes, broadwayguy, because god forbid someone have to go through any kind of process to get a discounted seat to a Broadway show. :/

[broadwayguy2]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 3:04pm

Did I say that, no? They can get any discount that is out there. I simply said that a ouse seat request.. for a FULL PRICE seat.. takes a lot of time. House seats are not discounted in any way.

[Kalimba]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 3:05pm

The moral of the story is, if you want to win a ticket at the lottery, just say you're a friend or family member of Alisan's.

Now if only this would work when it comes to Powerball. Updated On: 6/27/07 at 03:05 PM

[mikem]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 3:05pm

I also agree with what nygrl said earlier -- the production can allocate the lottery seats however they want to, but why go through the motions of pretending that it's random when it's not? It seems kind of silly and unnecessary.

[bjh2114]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 3:05pm

Walt, I think you might be dumb. What broadwayguy is saying is that it takes a while to get a seat request processed. You need to know WAY in advance. However, if the friends and family of a castmember decided to come see the show only a few days in advance, they wouldn't have time to get that filled out.

[JRybka]

Posted: 6/27/07 at 3:06pm

Does anyone not realize that if you guys continue to bitch and moan about this ACL can just pull the Lotto. Then you will have to go back to paying full price (or TDF tickets)--

Quit Yer Bitching -- there are more things then complain about then some silly lotto.

AND I had to laugh at the person who compaired A Chorus Line's Lotto being rigged to George W. Bush's lying.... That is funny!~ Someone needs to get over themselves.