A Mackintosh plan?- Page 2

[blaxx]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:08pm

No, I'm sure the only rule is the time after it closed.
I think it's been mentioned here before of a couple of similar cases in the past, who were indeed nominated for Best Revival even if it was the same production, and even won (What the $#@!)

Maybe someone can help here... I think I remember it was an Ethel Merman musical?

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:08pm

It just doesn't make any sense.

[bwayondabrain]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:10pm

"What? Revive all of his hits this early on in what? "

i just mean that all of his hits like Cats, Les Mis, Miss Saigon, and all, did not close a really long time ago, and I just think that ALW and Cameron Macintosh should wait like 20 years or so to revive...
i guess this is not coming out the way i hoped, so since i am not making sense, just ignore me, okay? sorry

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:14pm

ALW has nothing to do with LES MIS or MISS SAIGON...

If the show is loved by millions of people and the producers deem it worthy to bring back to Broadway, why not? Personally, I don't care how many years it's been, but that's just me.

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:16pm

ALW isn't reviving anything.

Cameron is, however. And he isn't reviving an ALW piece.

This is like the ALW compilations with Les Mis songs on them...

Updated On: 3/15/06 at 08:16 PM

[blaxx]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:21pm

"If the show is loved by millions of people and the producers deem it worthy to bring back to Broadway, why not? Personally, I don't care how many years it's been, but that's just me"

Well, I think it's tricky.
Especially if it can really be nominated for a revival.
It can bring the:

DIDN'T WIN THAT TONY THE FIRST TIME?
Don't worry!
Just make sure a producer brings it back for a "limited six month engagement" and you'll get another chance!
And if you don't succeed, don't worry!
Just repeat the formula every three years and one day that
Tony will be yours!!!

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:22pm

Well if that becomes a trend, the Tony committee with deal with it.

Really, there haven't been any official Tony rulings on LES MIS yet. They usually save that until after the show opens. Nothing is final.

[Unmasked05]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:32pm

You know it doesn't bother me but I think it will become open-ended.

I see a huge revival season getting read to happen.

Les Miserables
A Chorus Line
The Threepenny Opera
The Wiz...which will probably transfer from LaJolla

[alterego]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:34pm

Good God I hope not! It took Broadway years to get rid of the over blown doom and gloom musicals (Les Miz, Saigon, even Jekyl and Hyde) and bring back laughs and musical comedy... The Producers, Hairspray etc. Please not an open ended run!

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:34pm

Threepenny is this season...

[BSoBW3]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:36pm

A Chorus Line vs. Les Mis.

[alterego]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:37pm

A CHORUS LINE everytime!

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 8:43pm

I would take mediocre drama over mediocre comedy any day.

[PB ENT.]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 9:21pm

I guess its a hobby to speculate on things one knows very little about. LOL! The only people that know what's going on with this particular situation is Cameron Mackintosh's team and I'm sure they are still tossing around terms on this one.

That being said, I'll go out on a limb, with a limited amount of what I consider credible information with this...

1. It "appears" that the Oct-April Broadway run will be a limited run. It's not likely that it will extend much beyond this. The show was not in great shape financially when it closed a few years ago. Everyone has seen it either on tour or in NY over the past 19 years! Why would they repeat the past? This is "probably" the reason why he will cast leads who have proven past records with the roles. He's smart enough to figure out where he'll spend his energy and money! This makes good business sense.

2. As was stated several times by Mackintosh "special casting will be brought in" (again likely for a few of the leads) Some of the touring cast and sets will come along for the ride. ( imo,I hope they don't bring along the touring leading ladies. If they can afford better, I say, go for it. This depends on what's on the table for the male leads)

3. Come April 2007, will mark the 20th Anniversary of the NEW YORK opening on Broadway. It's likely that "something" will take place at that time.

Trust me, few know any more than this and those who do are waiting until it's all confirmed.

[James885]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 9:27pm

I definatly think that it it's gonna be extended, if not turned into an open-ended run. Personally, I would love to see Miss Saigon brought back to Broadway, even though I know it'll probably never happen. But I never got to see it on broadway, and I absolutly love the music in the show.

Getting back to Les Mis, it'll be interesting to see whether or not it'll be eligable for the Tony's since it is identical to the original.

[sunsignleo]

Posted: 3/15/06 at 11:50pm

The eligibility of winning Tonys should NEVER be the "end all" as to whether a show is worthy to play in New York or not. It's a win-win situation for Cameron Makintosh. The show already won the Tony. It doesn't need to win it again. If it does, well, bravo, be mad at the voting commitee if you feel so strongly opposed. My point? We as theater goers and performers should be happy to see a theater up and running as long as there is a demand for that show. Why begrudge its success? I believe that it only encourages the masses to explore more obscure/experimental theater after they have experienced some of the more "mainstream"/"commercial" productions. For example, think of how many children have been introduced to the art form of musical theater because of Disney. That can only help theater in the future. Like the movie industry, we have the blockbusters and we have the small independents, good and bad examples of both. Let's not obsess about awards(although I do understand the fun speculating, let's remind ourselves that awards are for celebrating theater NOT ridiculing it). And yes, it does comes down to business... there is money to be made folks! Let's be happy that there are jobs for actors! My educated guess... this baby is going to extend. The national tour is not closing because it's not selling well, my friends. Expect another revival tour to be mounted in '07 after the show has been playing in NY for 6+ months. Cameron's a genius... enough said.

[tophertilson]

Posted: 3/16/06 at 8:50am

I'm sure if it's making enough money, it'll turn into an open-ended run. Why close if it's making money. That said, is it really going to sell that many tickets? Are Mackintosh/Boublil/Schonberg that much of a draw anymore? With MARY POPPINS and PIRATE QUEEN opening on B'way in the same season, I guess we'll find out (though MP will sell for a couple of years on the title alone).

TT

[Ourtime992]

Posted: 3/16/06 at 9:46am

There have been any number of past productions to feature the original staging and most visual elements. These have all been considered revivals at the Tonys. The difference is that these productions opened prior to the Special Theatrical Event award existing, so there is always the possibility that the committee can place it there instead. I think it unlikely, but they ruled A Dancer's Life a new musical this year against all logic, so you never know.

Even if it is ruled a revival, you know it's not going to win, so it doesn't matter. And even if it is considered a revival, the nominating committee isn't going to nominate previously awarded work like the design and direction. It's similar to the way Lily Tomlin could only be nominated for Search for Intelligent Life once, or Cathy Rigby could only be nominated once for Peter Pan. When the same production or performance is seen in New York twice, only original elements will be honored by the Tonys. Whether this is written into the rules or taken care of by a heads-up nominating committee makes no difference. Don't lose sleep over it.

[Fosse76]

Posted: 3/16/06 at 10:12am

"Word on the "street" is it will extend at least thru $mas."

No, it's not. It's scheduled to play for six months starting in October. Xmas is already on its schedule, unless of course you mean the following xmas. But the show closed because of its costs. Didn't Les Mis frequently run afoul of overtime becuase of its length? It's been gone long enough that I'm sure there will be a strong tourist demand for it.

[PB ENT.]

Posted: 3/16/06 at 10:51am

The "street" is filled with tons of "information" about every thing and every show. It's like the old children's game "Whisper Down the Lane", the facts get so distorted from the original source that they barely resemble the truth. There are no facts yet...just plans.

In this case, Mackintosh himself can't predict the outcome of any of this until he puts the offer on the table to a cast, gets the ball rolling to see how it's going. So how can any of you (us) predict anything? LOL!

Whether this baby will win another award is likely the last thing CamMack is thinking about. He's high on celebrating his prise show. Don't spoil his fun! LOL!

[RentBoy86]

Posted: 3/16/06 at 12:39pm

He might be bringing it back to help out the success of Pirate Queen. "if you can't get into Les Mis, just go see their new show Pirate Queen down the street"

[tophertilson]

Posted: 3/16/06 at 12:44pm

I kinda doubt Mackintosh wants to *help* PIRATE QUEEN. :) As the seasons stands now, PQ is the big competition for MP.

TT

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 3/16/06 at 1:22pm

Didn't Les Mis frequently run afoul of overtime becuase of its length?

Yes, which is why it was reworked some years before it closed to trim enough off the running time to prevent overtime being an issue.

[CurtainPullDowner]

Posted: 3/16/06 at 1:44pm

oops my bad

[Colle]

Posted: 3/16/06 at 3:24pm

I hope the "Les Mis" revival does well. If I could vote for the Tony's I would probably vote for it over A Chorus Line, or any other musical. When done well, I find the story of "Les Miserables" to be very moving. I admit that I have not seen "A Chorus Line," and it is probably a good musical in its own right, I just don't see what is so special about it from what I have heard. No offense to people who like "A Chorus Line."

So, it sounds like it is possible that "Les Mis" could be noimated for best "special theatricial event" instead? I would be happy with that.

If things go well, I can see the "Les Mis" run being extended but not by that much, maybe next time it will be open ended.

Updated On: 3/16/06 at 03:24 PM