A Thread for Gracious Messages to All the Patti Haters

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 8:18am

Eat your hats, boys.

This time's for me.

For me!

For ME!

FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[jaystarr]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 8:37am

I am happy for Miss Patti! She deserves it! Everything's Coming Up Roses for her!

J*

Updated On: 3/28/08 at 08:37 AM

[bertandrew2]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 8:41am

I'll continue to wear my hat, thank you.

And no matter what anyone says, I still have my own opinions.

[jaystarr]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 8:48am

Yup! and Everyone is entitled to their own WRONG opinion!

Good Luck!

J*

[winston89]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 8:55am

So Jay,

Your pretty much saying that it is a wrong opinion for me to say that Patti really isn't my cup of tea?

[bertandrew2]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 8:58am

Jaystar, thats not very nice. So unless everyone agrees with you they are wrong?

Or because the critics like a show its suddenly better?

Be nice.

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 9:03am

No matter what the critics say I would still rather hear nails on a chalk board for two hours than here her scream her way through that role. But that's just me.

[jaystarr]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 9:04am

Ben- My comment is ONLY directed to Patti-hater(s) who keeps creating accounts to bash GYPSY & Miss Patti.

J*

[LEStheatreGuy]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 9:22am

There's nothing wrong with hating Patti or her work. What gets to me is the irrational Patti bashing.

Sure, she's given some crappy performances (NOISES OFF anyone?) but people who argue that she's not playing a character in this production or complain about her diction (for chrissakes!!!) are just blowing hot air.

But, PJ, jaystarr, and my other comrades in LuPone, don't sweat it. This is our time. Savor the fact that the naysayers are in a very, VERY slim minority. How glorious that bad reviews can only be found in the online talkinbroadway.com and the New York Sun (what??)whereas EVERY SINGLE EVEN REMOTELY IMPORTANT CRITIC FROTHED AT THE MOUTH IN JUSTIFIEDLY OVER-THE-TOP PRAISE FOR PATTI'S HISTORY-MAKING PERFORMANCE. At least this time, the bastards have seriously lost. Ha!

[BkCollector]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 9:30am

I was driving through the financial district the other day, and I got caught between two city buses, one on my left, and one on my right. I realized with utter horror that if they collided, I would be forever sandwiched between Clay Aiken and Patti LuPone (One ad for Spamalot on my left, and Gypsy on my right).

I am happy that she is successful, and that the continuity of Broadway Divas continue. I personally am more attracted by subtler performers, but I'm happy for her and all her fans.

[ThatBroadwayBitch]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 9:38am

I will fully admit the only reason I dislike Patti's performances is because her mouth wobbles around too much when she sings. Does that make me shallow? Absolutely. But I'm still not setting foot in that theater while she's around.

[jrb]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 9:47am

Why is this place hypocritical?

When people hated Cry-Baby, anyone who said they enjoyed it was bashed.

Now people love Pattie and Gypsy, and anyone who says they didn't like it or her is bashed.

You all attacked bertandrew2 when he created a thread saying that Patti should get acting tips from past Roses, and yet I can site several occations when each of you has spewed equally offensive fodder at the board. And then you go and create a thread devoted to bashing the likes of him.

It's like BWW McCarthyism. We should put on an online production of the Crucible or something.

Updated On: 3/28/08 at 09:47 AM

[Yankeefan007]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 10:04am

The woman's not my cup of tea - a well-known fact around here. But good on her for garnering such exquisite reviews. She deserves 'em.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 10:07am

Patti says to all her detractors, "Not only did I get rave reviews last night, ya bastards, but I had an affair with Kevin Kline when he was young and REALLY hot...AND YOU DIDN'T!"



"And, yes, I KNOW, I had stupid glasses. It was the 70s."

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 10:10am

Not to change the subject of the thread, but THAT was the translation of REALLY hot back then?

It looks like he needed a steamroller to go across his chest!

[givesmevoice]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 10:48am

yeah, PJ, I'm not feeling Kevin's carpet chest in that pic.

HOWEVER. if we're posting Baby Patti pics, I have one to share with the class:

[IMG]
she is jumping for joy at the Gypsy reviews!

Updated On: 3/28/08 at 10:48 AM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 11:15am

Oh, come on. Kevin Kline was pure sex back then.

Who's the cute guy jumping behind them?

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 11:20am

I'd happily nest in Kline's deliciously Jewy seventies chest hair. Did he go full monty in the first scene of LOOSE ENDS as the playwright suggests?

As for the notices, Patti must be so happy she could just poop! In fact, I think she's doing just that in the first photo! Mazeltov!

[jaystarr]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 11:21am

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 11:24am

Here's a post of mine from an old thread I won't link, because it's too full of Haterz.

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PalJoey
re: Can someone explain Patti LuPone?
Posted On: 8/22/06 at 10:48 PM

For those of us old enough to have seen her Evita, we remember it as having witnessed a force of nature, dazzling, shocking, thrilling. You cannot imagine what it was like to see her sing "He supports you / For he loves you, / Understands you, / Is one of you. / If not, how could he love me?" I get chills just remembering.

Around the same time, we had Jennifer Holiday in Dreamgirls, who was also breathtaking and astonishing, but Jennifer was an untrained accident of art, whereas Patti was a Juilliard-trained actress, who had been touring the country in John Houseman's Acting Company, with former classmates like Kevin Kline and Robin Williams. She was a singing actress with a world-class belt--an Ethel Merman who could act the classics. And that belt voice inspired a generation of singers.

Some of us knew her from The Baker's Wife, with her gorgeous "Meadowlark." Some of us knew her from the Acting Company's school matinee of the one-act "Diary of Adam and Eve," from The Apple Tree, which she played to lucky unknowing schoolkids with her sometime real-life lover Kevin Kline. Her "What Makes Me Love Him" taught cynical high-school teenagers how to cry at the theater.

Some of us knew her from the Acting Company's Robber Bridegroom, or as the young prince, Edward III, in Edward II. Some of us knew her from Working. Most of us saw her brother, Robert LuPone, create the role of Zack in A Chorus Line. They were talented--and cool.

The stories abounded that Hal Prince was a tyrant of a director to her, and she lived through it to create a portrait of Eva Peron that made the Andrew Lloyd Webber material soar beyond the British recordings.

And then, improbably, she went to England, and ended up in the Royal Shakespeare Company, where she "Dreamed a Dream" and originated the role of Fantine.

She came back to the US, and in Anything Goes, she dazzled again, this time in an old-fashioned musical-comedy star kind of way. Forbidden Broadway lampooned her much-vaunted inability to sing consonants, but in reality, she could have perfect Juilliard-trained diction--when she wanted to. She did a TV series and seemed to be on a ride to superstardom.

But then her ride to stardom crashed on a rocky road called Sunset Boulevard. The same Andrew Lloyd Webber whose music she had elevated in Evita turned sadistic and fired her, viciously, publicly and humiliatingly. Rumors abounded that he was forced to pay her off in 6 figures, 7 figures, 8 figures... He became the most hated man in musical theater, with fans and professionals hoping and praying for his karmic failure. And she became, temporarily, a victim.

Then, one night, Patti appeared at Carnegie Hall in Sondheim: A Celebration, where she proceeded to redefine the formerly male "Being Alive." She raised the roof of Carnegie Hall and told us all that yes! she was still alive and that no Andrew Lloyd Webber could destroy her. Then she appeared at Encores in Pal Joey (!), singing a mature and dynamic "Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered." She had arrived.

In between she played Maria Callas in Master Class and did farce in Noises Off, proving and re-proving her endless versatility. But it was the series of Sondheim concerts at Ravinia that finally turned Patti into an artist. Candide, Sweeney Todd, Passion, Sunday. Now Gypsy, playing the role she was born to play--and that all of us were born to SEE her play, and again she faces an evil wizard, keeping her from playing the star-making role in New York.

Why do we love her? Simple: her world-class acting, her force-of-nature singing voice and her Italian-American tough-girl elegant-despite-being-rough-around the edges spunk.

She is as American as...Ethel Merman.

[jaystarr]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 11:31am

Very well said..PJ...

and I was glad that I saw her last Saturday--only 7-10 feet away from her ...which finally makes me a real theater afficionado.. Her ROSE'S TURN was an experience that I will truly cherish in this lifetime!

J*

Her Glorious ROSE'S TURN

Updated On: 3/28/08 at 11:31 AM

[WhoCouldBeBlue]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 12:02pm

"Why is this place hypocritical?

When people hated Cry-Baby, anyone who said they enjoyed it was bashed.

Now people love Pattie and Gypsy, and anyone who says they didn't like it or her is bashed.

You all attacked bertandrew2 when he created a thread saying that Patti should get acting tips from past Roses, and yet I can site several occations when each of you has spewed equally offensive fodder at the board. And then you go and create a thread devoted to bashing the likes of him.

It's like BWW McCarthyism. We should put on an online production of the Crucible or something."



I completely agree with you. I've been a member of this site for a few years now and rarely post for just this reason.

The fact that people will bash others for differences in opinions is not only childish, it's wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion... it's called Freedom of Speech.

I am a big fan of Patti... have followed her for many years, seeing as many shows of hers as possible.. even standing in the rain for an open air concert, cheering her on.

I personally do not like Patti's Rose, and I've seen MANY. I think the whole idea of her going from Ravinia to CC to Broadway with "The role she was born to play" is quite pretentious and it shows.

I'm glad to see the rave reviews and that most people are enjoying her performance. Then again, I respect people's opinions, whether or not I agree with them.

[baddadnpa]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 12:07pm

Kevin Kline is STILL hot and I'd invite him under the covers anytime. Kevin, kick Phoebe to the curb and come on over.

[jrb]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 12:10pm

Exactly.
I am actually looking forward to seeing her performance and am a fan despite some of her quirks. I just don't understand the tone here.
A person's feelings on shows, performances, and performers are subjective - meaning that you cannot be wrong. This site seems to challenge that concept.

[bertandrew2]

Posted: 3/28/08 at 12:16pm

no jrb, you cant win here, unless your opinion is everyone elses. As long as you yes the right people, you're good. I dont like Patti...so I am bad. I liked Cry Baby...so I am hateful. I say what I like and I say what I dont like....so I am a villain.

Know what? I'm good with it.