A theory on the supposed robbery of Raul — Page 2

Jonny Boy, that was one of the most ignorant and moronic statements I have ever heard in my life. Raul Esparza would not be where he is right now if "He sucks". How many Broadway and Off-Broadway projects have you been in? Please do not say that Raul Esparza sucks. You may not like him personally, that does not give you the right to say that he sucks.

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Most Tony voters see as many shows as they possibly can. And that is the truth. They take it seriously, for the most part. There are the ones who don't care, but they are thankfully the small minority.

I can't imagine COMPANY wasn't one of the main shows on everyone's list. At least as many had the chance to see that as LITTLE DOG LAUGHED.

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Many Tony voters, however, only want to go to shows that THEY'D seem interested in. Because PIRATE QUEEN got scathing reviews, they didn't see it, and therefore, didn't nominate it for anything so they wouldn't have to, although it deserved a costumes nomination.

I mean, SPRING AWAKENING got a costumes nomination. What - for some raggedy dresses and a couple school boy pant suits? There are more intricate, and certainly better costumes on Broadway.

They're in the business.

- Tell them, Carmen Bernstein.

Many Tony voters, however, only want to go to shows that THEY'D seem interested in. Because PIRATE QUEEN got scathing reviews, they didn't see it, and therefore, didn't nominate it for anything so they wouldn't have to, although it deserved a costumes nomination.

So much is wrong with that post. First off, the Tony voters don't pick the nominees. The nominating committee picks the nominees. The nominating committee is a group of 25 New York theatre professionals. There are 750 Tony voters. Second, even if the Tony voters did choose the nominees as you stated, you're saying that they didn't nominate PIRATE QUEEN because they wouldn't have to see it? Huh? How exactly would that work?

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If Foster didn't have me blocked, he wouldn't have said EXACTLY what I just did.

Someone should tell him that

- Munk.

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I think it's frickin funny he posted the same thing, lol. You two are more alike then you would like to believe.

My personal theory...


There was a competition...

And Heeee LOOOOSSSST!

Unfortunately the night of the Tonys was before July 15th, a perilous time for Pices. Had it been when Venus was in Capricorn, he'd avoid a catalogue of crises. Or more specifically, this robbery that apparently took place when I recall nothing being stolen from him.

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Interesting, still most will take a bribe and then do what they want. It could very well have been that they counted on Raul continuing onwards with great performances in the future while Hyde will find himself more on the big screen.

I totally accept that some people can't put their likes and dislikes of a person aside when voting. They may have found Curtains just more to their taste because it isn't revised so much?

I disagree with the theory though. It is just more of a hypothesis to me. Theory should be based on fact. I can't think of how many times I watched Judy Garland or Sammy Davis Jr. perform certain songs with true gusto. Ah, Judy singing, "Bring in the Clowns", priceless. Songs that are painful, should come from the gut. If the performance is good, the performer goes to their gut, to pull out those emotions that hurt and bring us pain. If you look comfortable or relaxed singing a song like that, then I would think you just aren't feeling the part.

Man of La Mancha's "Impossible Dream" is a good example. I have seen it performed so many times but very few times, did I believe the person singing it was really relating to it's greatness.

Bono, of U2 fame is one example that comes quickly to mind. Watching him perform, "New Years Day" or "Sunday, Bloody Sunday" gives me chills. He puts so much into his songs when he performs. Some can call it acting, some can just call it "being" in character but I like it. It's from the heart.

"I couldn’t help noticing how much effort it seemed to take him to sing it. It took me awhile to realize why that bugged me."

Exactly. I felt the same way. I don't want to watch a performer formulating his technique.

I just don't think the role is of Tony caliber. I've never felt that way and I've seen Jones, Kert and a slew of others.

On the other hand, Pierce made his performance seem effortless and natural. A well-deserved win in an otherwise predictable season.

When they start giving Tonys for being cute on stage and nice at the stage door, Esparza might stand a chance

Tom- you probably will disagree but I thought that the best part of Esparza's performance was that it was Bobby like you've never seen. His was disturbingly human and while maybe didn't come across the best at the Tony's his Being Alive in the theater was one of the most amazing songs I've seen. Definilty of Tony Award Caliber.

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Some of these arguments are completely crazy, for the mere fact that if some of you are comparing actual performances, if Raul Esparza were to loose, it was Michael Cerveris who gave a heartfelt, neuanced, tony worthy performance and not David Hyde Pierce. Some of those earlier arguments on this thread are just nuts.