Posted: 6/9/16 at 11:45am
Jason's post: https://www.facebook.com/JDanieley/posts/555838991267391
Posted: 6/9/16 at 11:48am
I agree with after eight for the first time in history, why would you admire someone for charging $850 per ticket?
i do think simply the subject matter was strange and not necessarily very commercial, but Lin wrote the show in a way that is super-mainstream
Posted: 6/9/16 at 11:50am
gypsy101 said: "I agree with after eight for the first time in history, why would you admire someone for charging $850 per ticket?
i do think simply the subject matter was strange and not necessarily very commercial, but Lin wrote the show in a way that is super-mainstream"
Sorry I didn't say that I admired him for upping the prices, I said I admired him for taking on shows that aren't on the surface commercially appealing. Not just Hamilton. Rent, In the Heights, Avenue Q etc. Yes Hamilton became commercially appealing but Seller has been with it since before it was.
You can admire someone for one thing and not for another.
Posted: 6/9/16 at 11:51am
I've seen several social media posts, including Danieley's, from actors lambasting Sellers and his apparent greed today.
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:00pm
Where are the new lottery seats going to be?
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:01pm
schubox said: "Where are the new lottery seats going to be?"
Second row.
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:08pm
Why does Danieley think the average Joe would even have a fair shot at tickets if the face values were to be lower? Bots would be scooping them up before anyone else could even get to them. The truth is that these tickets have been severely underpriced, and it is the producer's responsibility to maximize the return he brings to his investors. Raising the price to what the market has determined is fair is the logical action to take.
They have the $10 ticket lottery, and they've made the show accessible to students attending schools in low-income areas. They're already doing a lot, but still people fault it for taking advantage of its success.
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:11pm
can bots buy more than 6 tickets for the show? that's the limit for people this time.
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:13pm
Cupid Boy2 said: "Why does Danieley think the average Joe would even have a fair shot at tickets if the face values were to be lower? Bots would be scooping them up before anyone else could even get to them. The truth is that these tickets have been severely underpriced, and it is the producer's responsibility to maximize the return he brings to his investors. Raising the price to what the market has determined is fair is the logical action to take.
They have the $10 ticket lottery, and they've made the show accessible to students attending schools in low-income areas. They're already doing a lot, but still people fault it for taking advantage of its success.
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exactly. Like i'm not happy the prices have increased but the average joe would not have a higher chance of getting these tickets if the prices were a lot lower. bots would get them easily and then resell them at a marked up price. Resellers have been selling the tickets for 3 times the amount and people have actually been buying them. Why should that money go to bots that are trying to scam people?
Updated On: 6/9/16 at 12:13 PM
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:20pm
People are paying crazy prices because they want to see it now. The hype is at an all time high and the OBC is still there. Probably why they're selling this new crazily prices block on Tony Sunday, to capitalize on the mania. Do you think people are going to be dropping $2k or $3k in a year when some other show has got the Tony buzz and the whole OBC is gone? No way. They probably would have trouble selling tickets at nearly $900.
Obviously the market is there but this comes off as incredibly greedy. They're making a ****load of money but they're upset they can't get a piece of these hyped up prices so they've decided to make Hamilton the most expensive ticket in the history of Broadway. By a lot.
And I love the "well the average joe couldn't get these seats if they were cheaper." Like that logic, which who knows if it's true, justifies pricing all but the well off out of seeing the show
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:24pm
I don't think anyone expects the show to still be selling at these prices in a year's time.
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:30pm
aaaaaa15 said: "I don't think anyone expects the show to still be selling at these prices in a year's time.
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But they're tickets for shows nearly a year from now. Which is my point.
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:30pm
schubox said: "
And I love the "well the average joe couldn't get these seats if they were cheaper." Like that logic, which who knows if it's true, justifies pricing all but the well off out of seeing the show
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That's not even what I was saying,. Look I'm not even rich. I only see like 4 shows a year because that's all I can afford. luckily I saw Hamilton before it blew up as much and i bought the tickets early. But the truth is the reason the tickets sell out so fast is because the bots buy them and then sell them at astronomical prices. This is the truth.Most people aren't getting tickets from the actual box office but buying them through resell. The producers are doing their best to combat that. They are still selling tickets at the 179 range which is still expensive but more affordable. And they are allowing kids in low income school to see it for cheap which they really don't have to do..
The prices will obviously go down when the hype dies down and the demand is less but although it may be a little money hungry it would be stupid for a producer not to capitalize of the current demand for tickets. He's still selling it for A LOT cheaper than re sellers were selling it for.
Updated On: 6/9/16 at 12:30 PM
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:31pm
schubox said: "But they're tickets for shows nearly a year from now. Which is my point."
So you don't think people will pay that price now for tickets a year from now? I disagree.
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:34pm
aaaaaa15 said: "I don't think anyone expects the show to still be selling at these prices in a year's time."
They aren't selling at $849 now. Plenty of seats available. Even the millionaires think it's too expensive.
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:36pm
sarahb22 said: "They aren't selling at $849 now. Plenty of seats available. Even the millionaires think it's too expensive."
Well for a start the tickets aren't available to all people yet (not even close). Secondly, I didn't say that they would all sell out immediately but yes, they will most likely sell. They've only been on sale a few days to a limited amount of people.
Updated On: 6/9/16 at 12:36 PM
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:37pm
I still feel like Seller's math is wrong, what he said about $850 is the average. sure, in the last month or two especially in advance of the Tonys tickets have been listed for crazy prices (I haven't been keeping my eye on how much they are actually selling for because that seems impossible for me to do) but before then I don't feel like 850 was ever the median. maybe he has a different definition of "average."
Posted: 6/9/16 at 12:37pm
you're expecting 849 dollar seats to sell out in one day? Have they even opened to genera sale yet? i thought it was just pre sale. Anyway I do agree that the tickets are a expensive but I understand in a way why they raised the price. I mean if they truly don't sell at all that would show they over estimated how much people were willing to spend but people were buying those 1500 people were selling.
Updated On: 6/9/16 at 12:37 PM
Posted: 6/9/16 at 1:03pm
aaaaaa15 said: "schubox said: "But they're tickets for shows nearly a year from now. Which is my point."
So you don't think people will pay that price now for tickets a year from now? I disagree.
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I don't think they're going to have an issue selling this block out. But do you think the resale market is going to be anywhere close to what it is now in March of 2017? There's no way
Posted: 6/9/16 at 1:05pm
I think it depends on how you view things, while everyone wants a fair shot at reasonable prices, if forced to overpay, some people have less rage paying the scalpers than the producers. If you see Sellers as a greedy rich guy, it may be harder to give him $850 but easier to give a scalper the same cuz the scalpers are a faceless enemy. Some people feel the opposite. I know that professionals are definitely taking seats especially when you see an entire row for sale but I also feel that there are way more individual small sellers than we realize. Maybe they buy a few tickets to make a few dollars or maybe they buy in good faith but decided to sell after seeing their worth. I'm not sure if saying the price is what the market bears as much as the buyer is held hostage. If I had to pay the money I guess I'd rather pay a scalper because I think I'd be bitter towards the production. It isn't necessarily the most logical reasoning but it's how I feel.
Posted: 6/9/16 at 1:08pm
Hellob said: "I think it depends on how you view things, while everyone wants a fair shot at reasonable prices, if forced to overpay, some people have less rage paying the scalpers than the producers. If you see Sellers as a greedy rich guy, it may be harder to give him $850 but easier to give a scalper the same cuz the scalpers are a faceless enemy. Some people feel the opposite. I know that professionals are definitely taking seats especially when you see an entire row for sale but I also feel that there are way more individual small sellers than we realize. Maybe they buy a few tickets to make a few dollars or maybe they buy in good faith but decided to sell after seeing their worth. I'm not sure if saying the price is what the market bears as much as the buyer is held hostage. If I had to pay the money I guess I'd rather pay a scalper because I think I'd be bitter towards the production. It isn't necessarily the most logical reasoning but it's how I feel.
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So you would rather pay 1200 to a scalper then 875 to the actual show? TBH I can strangely understand this logic but it isn't logical.
Updated On: 6/9/16 at 01:08 PM
Posted: 6/9/16 at 1:13pm
I bought a pair of resale tickets for July 9 for $800 each, and am flipping the spare on Stubhub. The person I sit next to will have no idea that they paid for my entire trip, making it possible for me to see the OBC. I'm not at all sorry about it. Don't hate the playa, hate the game. (Bots are an entirely different story.)
Posted: 6/9/16 at 1:17pm
sharilynj said: "I bought a pair of resale tickets for July 9 for $800 each, and am flipping the spare on Stubhub. The person I sit next to will have no idea that they paid for my entire trip, making it possible for me to see the OBC. I'm not at all sorry about it. Don't hate the playa, hate the game. (Bots are an entirely different story.)"
wow, for Lin's last show?? good job to you. Sure it's not the most ethical way to pay for a trip but hate the game, I guess!
Posted: 6/9/16 at 1:17pm
Primary ticket Seller vs. Secondary ticket sellers
Posted: 6/9/16 at 1:20pm
So after months of complaining that resellers are charging these prices, people are now going with the narrative that it's fine for them to do so but not the producers? Well okay.
