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An all black FOLLIES in the works??

An all black FOLLIES in the works??

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ljay889
#1An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/17/10 at 5:48pm

Any truth to this?

http://talkinbroadway.com/allthatchat/d.php?id=1880210

2013?? If the Kennedy Center production is good enough to transfer, this production will have no hope.
Updated On: 7/17/10 at 05:48 PM

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somethingwicked
#2An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/17/10 at 7:45pm

I don't know how true it is, but I'd love to see Tonya Pinkins as Phyllis opposite Audra McDonald as Sally in any production.


Tonya Pinkins: Then we had a "Lot's Wife" last June that was my personal favorite. I'm still trying to get them to let me sing it at some performance where we get to sing an excerpt that's gone.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.

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Michael Bennett
#2An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/17/10 at 8:01pm

I dont really see the reasoning behind this -- I don't think black audiences (if that's the reasoning behind it) would respond anymore to this material than the scores of mainstream white audiences who have never liked FOLLIES (lets face it this is a show beloved by a very small group of musical theatre lovers and gay men).

It definitely wouldn't pull audiences that have flocked to the black themed successes like JOE TURNER, FENCES, CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF and RAISIN IN THE SUN, which are all either well known classic titles and/or by African American writers.

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#3An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/17/10 at 8:36pm

It's in discussion right now. I was asked to post the idea here to see what the reaction would be. Comments?

WHO is in discussion about this? Is ATC just recreating BWW threads from two years ago?

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madbrian
#4An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/17/10 at 9:52pm

I'm not sure why race should be an issue in casting Follies. I (and many others) have opined that Vanessa Williams seems ideal for Phyllis, irrespective of the race of other cast members.


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Jordan Catalano
#5An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/17/10 at 9:58pm

I don't think race should be an issue for this show either, but why have an "ALL" anything cast? I'm actually starting to view these "all intentionally one race shows" a little bit racist in themselves.

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Michael Bennett
#6An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/17/10 at 10:07pm

Well Jordan, to be fair there has only been one 'all black' production of a traditionally white show on Broadway in recent seasons, and that is CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF. Obviously the planned all-black STREETCAR production is being courted as a somewhat likely follow-up. But the Williams shows in addition to being classic, well known titles have a heightened theatricality to their stories and sexuality that is particularly appealing to black theatre audiences.

An all black FOLLIES seems to me to be something that David Merrick would have pulled, but even he would have been smart enough to realize that black audiences would find it no more appealing than an all black CHERRY ORCHARD or an all black MACK AND MABEL.

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PalJoey
#7An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/17/10 at 10:10pm

"Laverne" is clearly a Troll, and when he says "it's in discussion," he means three of his troll-iest Troll Friends started talking about it over their fourth and fifth Mai-Tai-Tinis and one of them said, "Wouldn't it be a HOOT if we could get those freaks on the chat boards to BELIEVE it!"

Then the one called "Laverne" turned to the one called "Shirley" and said, "I'll post it--and I'll say "it's in discussion."


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theaterkid1015
#8An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/18/10 at 1:26am

Wouldn't it be MORE interesting to write a new show about black performers from the Follies/minstrel show era and exploring those issues? Just a thought...


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Pippin
#9An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/18/10 at 2:05pm

Wouldn't it be MORE interesting to write a new show about black performers from the Follies/minstrel show era and exploring those issues? Just a thought...



they did. Scottsboro boys comes to Broadway in October!!!


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theaterkid1015
#10An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/18/10 at 3:45pm

I thought that SCOTTSBORO BOYS was about the actual trial, told through the device of a minstrel show, rather than the story of performers who made their living in those shows.


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darquegk
#11An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/18/10 at 6:46pm

Agreed... this has the potential to come across really badly, but don't you agree that Follies, just by the nature of the business it was in, is about a predominantly white-Jewish experience in a predominantly white-Jewish art form? Not that black performers don't belong in Follies, but an all-black version would miss the point of what Follies was, and turn it into an interpretation of the minstrel-show theme, which it doesn't accurately represent at all.

bk
#12An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/18/10 at 7:08pm

Why does everyone here waste their time talking as if this were something real? Pal Joey is correct - scroll up, read his post. It's clearly not real, but I guess everyone needs to state their opinions on something that's never going to happen.

Jon
#13An all black FOLLIES in the works??
Posted: 7/19/10 at 11:58am

The 1980's Off-Broadway revue "One Mo' Time" dealt with black entertainers in the 1920's.


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