Anyone know the REAL reason Hello Dolly refused to perform at the TONYS?

If you can't afford to see a show, don't see it. Simple as that. Maybe you should save your money for things other than shows if you're so upset about prices. Just calm down lol

RicardoMagon said: "I only ask because I want to take my Mom to the touring show and when I asked if she wanted to go, she said " well show me some clips". And I couldn't because they didn't perform on the tonys. I don't want to rant but it really irked me that they gave such a lame ( and obviously lying) excuse for why they chose not to perform.

We didn't have enough money to see the show on broadway with Bette Midler. Speaking as someone who comes from a poor family, this show really put a bad taste in my mouth with how it marketeditself. This show is the very definition of snobby Broadway elite. Asking people to pay that much to see Bette Midler.

It's not just this show of course but it seems like Broadway is becoming just for the very rich now. To be frank, this is why I don't feel bad about watching bootlegs. The prices of shows now....my family just can't keep up financially. The 3 times I saw Hamilton, 2 of those times I was lucky to go with a friend who had an extra ticket and the other was a school trip.





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Hamilton is at least twice as expensive as Hello Dolly *shrugs

EleanorC said: "RicardoMagon said: "I only ask because I want to take my Mom to the touring show and when I asked if she wanted to go, she said " well show me some clips". And I couldn't because they didn't perform on the tonys. I don't want to rant but it really irked me that they gave such a lame ( and obviously lying) excuse for why they chose not to perform.

We didn't have enough money to see the show on broadway with Bette Midler. Speaking as someone who comes from a poor family, this show really put a bad taste in my mouth with how it marketeditself. This show is the very definition of snobby Broadway elite. Asking people to pay that much to see Bette Midler.

It's not just this show of course but it seems like Broadway is becoming just for the very rich now. To be frank, this is why I don't feel bad about watching bootlegs. The prices of shows now....my family just can't keep up financially. The 3 times I saw Hamilton, 2 of those times I was lucky to go with a friend who had an extra ticket and the other was a school trip.


If I'm not mistaken David Hyde Pierce did perform from the company of Hello Dolly at the 2017 Tony awards?

He sand Penny in my pocket,https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/animals/see-david-hyde-pierces-rousing-performance-at-the-71st-annual-tony-awards/vp-BBCxc8x



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If they didn't want to perform with big sets because of the gap in the stage or whatever, then why not just perform "Elegance"? Give us something. Not a song no one had ever heard of. It just left a bad taste in my mouth and I know I'm not alone with that opinion.

I am by noooooo means “...the very definition of Broadway snobby elite”. If anything I’m lower middle class, barely clearing $30k take-home pay last year. But I do love my shows, seeing 19 National Tour productions since Nov. 2015. By the end of this October that total will be 27, including my first-ever Broadway shows, and I’m almost 60 years old. I guess you can say I got a late start, only appreciating Broadway productions in the past few years.

And I agree that the cost of tickets for on-Broadway shows are expensive. I had planned on attempting to make a visit to Broadway sometime in 2020, but “Hello, Dolly!” changed my mind, as did a couple other shows that peaked my curiosity. So I splurged, big time for me, and I’m proud to say I’m losing my Broadway “virginity” next week. lol

Tens of thousands of regular non-“Broadway snobby Elite” see shows every year. They either use TKTS or Rush to get tickets at a much cheaper price, sometimes up to 50% off.

The National Tour of “Hello, Dolly!” begins in October, and if you can’t make it to NYC catch the tour. Or book a trip to NYC and use TKTS for the show. They may be nose-bleed or partially obstructed, but you’ll get to see the show. If you’re not successful, see another show while your there.

Don't assume that people who attend Broadway shows are top tier society. They’re regular folks just like you and me, many of them/us saving for years and years.

And don’t let this put a bad taste on your mouth. Shoot for the stars and aim high. It’ll happen, maybe not this year, but set a goal.

Good luck!

dmwnc1959 said: "I am by noooooo means “...the very definition of Broadway snobby elite”. If anything I’m lower middle class,barely clearing $30k take-home pay last year. But I do love my shows, seeing 19 National Tour productions since Nov. 2015. By the end of this Octoberthat total will be 27, including my first-ever Broadway shows, and I’m almost 60 years old. I guess you can say I got a late start, only appreciating Broadway productions in the past few years.

And I agree that the cost of tickets for on-Broadway shows areexpensive. I had planned on attempting to make a visit to Broadway sometime in 2020, but “Hello, Dolly!” changed my mind,as did a couple other shows that peaked my curiosity. So I splurged, big time for me, and I’m proud to say I’m losing my Broadway “virginity” next week. lol

Tens of thousands of regular non-“Broadway snobby Elite”see shows every year. They either use TKTS or Rush to get tickets at a much cheaper price, sometimes up to 50% off.

The National Tour of “Hello, Dolly!” begins in October, and if you can’t make it to NYC catch the tour. Or book a trip to NYC and use TKTS for the show. They may be nose-bleed or partially obstructed, but you’ll get to see the show. If you’re not successful, see another show while your there.

Don't assume that people who attend Broadway shows are top tier society. They’re regular folks just like you and me, many of them/us saving for years and years.

And don’t let this put a bad taste on your mouth. Shoot for the stars and aim high.It’ll happen, maybe not this year,but set a goal.

Good luck!

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Thank you so much for that thoughtful and educational response. I should clarify, I didn't mean people seeing Dolly were the snobby elite, I was referring to Scott Rudin and other producers like that, as the snobby elite for charging the crap out of their shows.

I remember reading an article about how many people were upset that Bette Middler changed the date of her last show with Dolly and people had to re-book tickets and change their entire flight plans and how there was a rumor going around that the producers did that so they could up the price or something like that. It's stuff like that that really turns me off to Broadway.

But I should admit, I am a novice when it comes to musicals and shows. So maybe this is just how the industry is?

To answer the question of why Rudin didn't have a better number at the Tony's: he's sort of a ****and got into an argument with the producers of the TV show. He wanted it streamed live from the Shubert and not on the actual Tony stage and they said no so as a result he sent DHP to sing "Penny in My Pocket."

RicardoMagon said: "Thank you so much for that thoughtful and educational response. I should clarify,I didn't mean people seeing Dolly were the snobby elite, I was referring to Scott Rudin and other producers like that,as the snobbyelite for charging the crap out of their shows.

I remember readingan article about how many people were upset that Bette Middler changed the date of her last show with Dolly and people had to re-book tickets and change their entire flight plans and how there was a rumor going around that the producers did that so they could up the price or something like that. It's stuff like that that really turns me off to Broadway.

But I should admit, I am a novice when it comes to musicals and shows. So maybe this is just how the industry is?"

If you're going to take every rumor you hear as gospel truth, you're going to get turned off to a lot of things. And you can make Scott Rudin out to be a bogeyman if you want, but he's running a business and if he didn't charge what people are willing to pay, he would be doing a disservice to his investors. Until you're willing to reimburse him for his losses in shows like 1984, Sweat etc., don't criticize him for using his pricing power when he can.

RicardoMagon said: “Thank you so much for that thoughtful and educational response. I should clarify,I didn't mean people seeing Dolly were the snobby elite, I was referring to Scott Rudin and other producers like that,as the snobbyelite for charging the crap out of their shows.

I remember readingan article about how many people were upset that Bette Middler changed the date of her last show with Dolly and people had to re-book tickets and change their entire flight plans and how there was a rumor going around that the producers did that so they could up the price or something like that. It's stuff like that that really turns me off to Broadway.

But I should admit, I am a novice when it comes to musicals and shows. So maybe this is just how the industry is?”



Whether that’s the way the industry is or not, it’s no reason to get so upset that you’ll throw in the towel on a dream. Don’t try to figure it out, just set that goal and do what it takes to achieve it.

I had originally purchased my “Hello, Dolly!” ticket to see Bernadette Peters just two weeks before they announced the show was closing and Bette Midler was returning. No one saw that coming. No one. So, I bit the bullet and bought a second ticket, and another round trip airfare. It’s costing me an arm and a leg.

Clear your head, get out a piece of paper, and start planning. Nothing is more exciting.

RicardoMagon said: "I remember readingan article about how many people were upset that Bette Middler changed the date of her last show with Dolly and people had to re-book tickets and change their entire flight plans and how there was a rumor going around that the producers did that so they could up the price or something like that. It's stuff like that that really turns me off to Broadway."

You've twisted a bunch of half-truths into some new reality.

She was scheduled to end her run on January 14 at 2p. They added one additional show that night at 8p as a benefit for The Actor's Fund. So, there was no requirement to rebook or redo anything, unless you were adamant about seeing her last show, which as we now find out, wasn't the last show anyway.

The tickets were far more expensive for the benefit that night, but the producers, the entire cast, and crew all donate their time for free and don't make a dime, as I understand it. So yes, they played to a very wealthy house at massively marked-up prices so a charity made a LOT of money. Which seems like a strange thing to turn one off to Broadway.

RicardoMagon said: "My gut tells me that rumor is more true than not."

There's a word for that: http://www.cc.com/video-clips/63ite2/the-colbert-report-the-word---truthiness

Updated On: 5/23/18 at 08:53 PM

RicardoMagon said: "Did I? I was under the impression that people were angry because they wanted to see Bette's last performance, and then when it was announced that they added a show, people had to switch tickets to that performance? What did I get wrong?"

It wasn't an extension. It was one extra show. And no one HAD TO do anything. The show they booked still occurred and was considered her last 'public' performance. If people chose to change their plans and rebook the ticket (as I did), that was their choice. And I was one of them. But angry? Not really. I just added a different matinee and went to the new show in a worse, more expensive seat. But wasn't a huge deal.