BEST Musicals that DIDN'T win BEST MUSICAL — Page 2

Dreamgirls vs. Nine

It was a VERY tough decision that year! Having seen both original shows, Nine deserved to win.

EDIT: The only reason it was a bit of an awards show "shocker" is because Dreamgirls was a HUGE box office hit. Nine was doing well, but not the runaway blockbuster that Dreamgirls was. The misperception by many is that the most popular show always wins. This was a year that it didn't. Several other recent years come to mind.

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Updated On: 11/7/05 at 04:24 PM

Dreamgirls changed the face of broadway. and NINE being fresh in voters minds has nothing to do with which show deserved the Tony. There has been nothing like Dreamgirls on broadway since its closure.. NINE is your run of the mill standard broadway fair.

Updated On: 11/7/05 at 04:28 PM

I still very much disagree with you. I think NINE reaches a level that DREAMGIRLS didn't.

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SUNDAY IN THE PARK WITH GEORGE
THE LIGHT IN THE PIAZZA
A YEAR WITH FROG AND TOAD (Yes, you read that right.)

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Disagree on. Dreamgirls is a far superior show with a better score and FAR more memorable tunes. And never has there been such an impactful jaw dropping theater silencing moment on bdway since "its all over". please.. there have been a HUNDERED Nines when u come to think of it. whats sets it apart form so many other show? nothing. Like I said before, Its typical broadway non threatening fair.

Updated On: 11/7/05 at 04:36 PM

"And never has there been such an impactful jaw dropping theater silencing moment on bdway since "its all over". "

Um...I think I could name dozens of those.

Have you ever even seen NINE?

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Nine is standard. Wow. I'm just, not even going to...wow.

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I completely disagree with people who are saying CHICAGO.

Both A CHORUS LINE (the winner) and PACIFIC OVERTURES are FAR superior to CHICAGO...

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Pacific Overtures is brilliant, and one of Sondheim's best, but I'm not sure I would agree with it triumphing over ACL.

And I like PO much more than I like ACL, but I think ACL deserved the Tony completely...

They're both equally amazing. Although I would vote for PACIFIC OVERTURES over A CHORUS LINE based on material, I didn't see the original productions.

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Miss Saigon should have won best musical NOT WILL ROGERS FOLLIES
WICKED SHOULD HAVE WON ALSO NOT AVENUE Q.

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NINE and DREAMGIRLS in the same year is an embarrassment of riches. Both have terrific scores and strong stories. Both give many of its actors amazing things to play.

For me, if it came down to a choice, I'd have to go with DREAMGIRLS. I find the psychology of NINE to be just a tad simplistic. It's masked by incredible style. DREAMGIRLS deals with a topic that is still difficult to talk about to this day: racism within the black community. You can even see the difficulty in this topic in all the threads regarding the movie and how Effie has to be fat. It's not and never has been about fat. It's about whitening yourself up to reach success in a white world. It strikes a chord in me that NINE never has.

But, honestly...both are simply wonderful. Why quibble?

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