Best Actor in a Musical tony- Page 3
Best Actor in a Musical tony
#50re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/14/07 at 10:10pm"i think it is innovative and not pandering to the "easy" audience,"...I totally agree :)...and as someone who knows Groff personally, I'd love to hear about this "ego" that I've never noticed...
How can they see with sequins in their eyes?
C is for Company
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/16/05
#51re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/14/07 at 10:18pmWithout having seen half of the Best Musical contenders this season, NOBODY should be making any assumptions as to what will be taking it this year (even though we can hope! mmm Grey Gardens). As for Best Actor, isn't it a little obvious at this point as the Best Actress?
CurtainPullDowner
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/4/04
#52re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/14/07 at 10:49pm
No, it is not, There are at least 2 or 3 or more performances in the Male Lead category that have not been seen or reviewed in New York. Raul has his champions but there are also many disparagers.
This category, unlike the Female is Wide Open.
#53re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/14/07 at 10:51pm
My slow clap for Downer just got deleted!
EDIT* Whoops wrong thread.
Updated On: 2/14/07 at 10:51 PM
C is for Company
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/16/05
#55re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/14/07 at 11:53pm
Raul should win not only because he is phenomenal in COMPANY, but, unlike Pierce, he has given a series of raved about performances both on Broadway and Off, back since he made his Broadway debut in 2002.
1. Raul made his Broadway debut in 2000, not 2002.
2. David Hyde Pierce began his career in theatre and has been acting on and off Broadway since the early 1980s. He has a theatrical resume longer than your right arm.
So, know your facts if you're going to make snarky comments like that.
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
Updated On: 2/14/07 at 11:53 PM
#56re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:01am
Umm, pardon.
1) It wasn't a snarky comment. But yours certainly was.
2) I'm well aware that Pierce started doing Broadway back in the 80s. But while Pierce was in L.A. filming his TV show, Esparza was in New York building an inertia that has continued and led up to this peak, breakthrough performance.
That was my point.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Updated On: 2/15/07 at 12:01 AM
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#57re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:06amWhile I agree that Raul is very talented and should win the Tony for COMPANY, it's a bit rude to downgrade a great performer like Pierce because he chose to branch out into other mediums. Just because he doesn't exclusively focus on stagework like Raul doesn't make him any less worthy or talented.
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
#58re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:10am
1) I never said a word that downgraded Pierce as a performer.
2) I also never said the fact that he chose to branch out to other mediums makes him any less worthy or talented.
You're reading what you want to read.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#59re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:12amIn fact, my initial comment that you took issue with didn't say a word about David Hyde Pierce.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
CurtainPullDowner
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/4/04
#60re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:12am
Let's just wait till Pierce's performance kicks ass, which I hear it does.
Pierce is very well respected and liked in the Broadway community.
#61re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:13amI never said he wasn't. You're creating your own arguments.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
teka21
Leading Actor Joined: 12/19/06
#62re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:14amBottom line is Curtains hasn't opened yet, nor has Lovemusik, so we don't actually know what Pierce or Cerveris will do with their roles. Even the best artists are occasionally miscast, or may just be "off" in a particular role...
Julian2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/10/06
#63re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:15am
The bigger problem the Tonys have is how often Best Musical goes to the most commercial choice rather than the most artistically accomplished show (due in large part to the large contingent of road voters who often prefer to vote their wallets over their heads and hearts).
Is there anyway to fix this?
I mean I didn't get that Spamalot won Best Musical until I realized the award went to the producers. Would returning the award to the collaborative team solve anything, or would it just give the award that should be going to a different show to different people?
I have several names, one is Julian2. I am also The Opps Girl. But cross me, and I become Bitch Dooku!
Updated On: 2/15/07 at 12:15 AM
CurtainPullDowner
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/4/04
#65re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:20am
Raul should win not only because he is phenomenal in COMPANY, but, unlike Pierce, he has given a series of raved about performances both on Broadway and Off, back since he made his Broadway debut in 2002.
You're saying that Raul has given raved about performances and Pierce hasn't with that statement. I'm not reading anything into it. You wrote it. That's the last I'm saying on the matter.
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
Julian2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/10/06
#66re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:22amNO!
I have several names, one is Julian2. I am also The Opps Girl. But cross me, and I become Bitch Dooku!
#67re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:27am
Oh, dear. Again, selective reading.
I said that unlike Pierce, Esparza has has given a SERIES of raved about performances in the short period of time since he made his debut.
THAT was my point.
Did you read the part about INERTIA? Do you not know what that means?
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Updated On: 2/15/07 at 12:27 AM
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#68re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:31amYes, darling, I know what inertia means. You're saying, then, that Esparza deserves the Tony because he's stayed in New York, worked steadily in theatre, and gotten generally good reviews. Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm personally of the school that the most deserving performance should win the Tony, but I realize that line of thinking isn't for everybody. Whatevs.
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
#69re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:33amCongratulations.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Updated On: 2/15/07 at 12:33 AM
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
CurtainPullDowner
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/4/04
#70re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:35am
Pierce will win cause he is a nice guy.
chew on that
#71re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:41amThe same case could be made for Cerveris, then. I don't mean to fight with you; I just kinda hate it when people say that performers should win because of their body of work and not their performance, although Raul does give a knockout performance. That said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You have yours and I have mine.
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
#72re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:51amWhile some might vote for Cerveris because he should have won last year, plenty will probably vote for Esparza if they thought he deserved to win for TABOO.
"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy."
-Charlie Manson
CurtainPullDowner
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/4/04
#73re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:54amHe was a mess and a f*ck up to everyone who worked on TABOO.
BwayBaby18
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/19/05
#74re: Best Actor in a Musical tony
Posted: 2/15/07 at 12:57amI'd really like to see D'arcy James get a nom for The Apple Tree. I just feel like he is very deserving of it. His Adam is such a pleasure to watch. His Flip is a hoot. Sanjar is excellent as well.
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