Big Phantom Love Never Dies announcement, original Phantom to close? — Page 3

Yeah, his tweet was this:

the_phantomMy announcement on the eighth day of October will be at eleven o?clock in the morning, British time. The Phantom.


I rather like the follow-up by a fan who has put up a mirror site:


thephantom_My announcement will be at eleven o?clock in the morning, British time... Even though I live in France. Don't question me, bitches.

Alas! That kitty was killed by a car, and none of his other cats seem to have had the good taste or the dexterity to finish the job, and it's too late now.

I love that Heart is Slow to Learn. I hope that closes out the show. If what the article says is true about it being a great romantic score, I am super excited!

My imagining is that it's like the equivalent of Wishing This Song had a Shorter Title in Phantom 1. And if the lyrics aren't changed, then it sounds like Christine is singing it to/about... The Phantom?? So... I guess she did love him?.. And apparently she will love him until she dies?... But wouldn't it be longer than that because LOVE NEVER DIES? (Someone stop me, please...)

I do hope the cast recording is out before Christmas like Lord Andy said it would be a while ago. I'm liking what I've heard of the music, and, as I said on another board, I'd buy a recording of Ramin Karimloo singing a McDonalds menu, LOL.

Updated On: 10/7/09 at 11:29 PM

Well, like I said, the Don Black lyrics would sort of fit Christine singing about the Phantom. Or vice versa.

Do we know that there will be a song called Love Never Dies? I suppose it would make sense. "Loove Neeeeeever Diesss" does rhythmically fit in the first line of the chorus.

I wonder if they'll add synths into the orchestration of the song.


And on another note, I really want ALW to add in No One Would Listen, a cut song from the movie. It's beautiful. If they had kept it in, I probably wouldn't despise the movie as much. Probably.


No One Would Listen

Updated On: 10/7/09 at 11:40 PM

An article on this site says this about the music..
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Rialto Chatter has learned that "The Heart Is Slow To Learn", a number that debuted at Lord Lloyd Webber's 50th birthday concert and who's melody was used for the song "Our Kind Of Love" in his 2000 West End musical 'The Beautiful Game', will again return as part of the 'PHANTOM' sequel. Another song that struck a chord with people who have heard the score is the dark and romantic "Fortune Teller." Vocally the "Phantom" and "Christine" will be very different from their original musical identities. Interestingly, an audience member who witnessed the last full workshop, remarked that "Love Never Dies" is "a worthy chapter in the Phantom's story" and the most "romantic music we've heard in years."
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Vocally very different? ...but the most romantic someone has heard in years....
verrrry interesting.

--and it is, of course a matter of opinion, but "No One Would Listen" just sounds like a kind of generic Lloyd Webber ballad. It was written so that he would have a song eligible for the Academy Awards (it didn't win).

LOVE NEVER DIES REVEALS ITSELF OFFICIALLY 10/8

Updated On: 10/8/09 at 12:01 AM

I don't get how Christine could be vocally different. Some article somewhere mentioned Sierra's "soaring soprano" voice in the LND demos. Sounds like normal Christine to me. The Phantom, however, has had a multitude of different vocal types over the years, depending on the actor. Ramin likes to give his Phantom a rock edge, and he also enjoys belting and shrieking. (At the end. He goes NUTS in Final Lair. I don't know how his "Go now and leave me"-s don't shred his vocal cords. He does a full-on scream for that line.)

& I'm getting up early tomorrow for all the 'important announcing'. It better be worth it. If I wake up and it's "RAMIN KARIMLOO AND SIERRA BOGGESS ARE THE STARS!", I'll fly to London and strangle ALW. I value sleep very much, and with all the buildup, this announcement better be good.

Updated On: 10/8/09 at 12:17 AM

I only hope it doesn't involve that automaton face with the mist around it, like in the end of the teaser. That was just creepy. If I saw a poster like that and had no idea what the show was about other than the title, I certainly would NOT want to see it.

Hmmmm... That's a good question. I'd say probably not. He's a very good actor and really gets 'in the moment'. He can switch from screaming to singing pianissimo in a second. He doesn't let what's coming up next affect what he's doing at present, so I don't think Phantom 2 has influenced what he does in Phantom 1. It's still the same character, with the same past and the same personality, in the same show. Just because Ramin knows what happens to the character in the future doesn't change the character in the present.

Updated On: 10/8/09 at 12:43 AM

Well, Erik does dress as a clown in Phantom of Manhattan. I reaaaaaaally hope they choose NOT to include that in Love Never Dies.

I'm excited for the performances, sets, costumes, and music, just not the story!!

The only really villainous thing I can see about Mme. Giry (on stage) is that she fears and does not like the Phantom. "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering", I guess?

Though if they do keep the ending of Phantom of Manhattan, I absolutely cannot imagine her doing what Darius, the book villain, does.

Updated On: 10/8/09 at 01:00 AM

I've picked up details from here and there, as well as read Phantom of Manhattan. (AWFUL book.) I could summarize everything I know, but it might contain what people may consider spoilers.

It's not just Mme. Giry. Everyone is out of character. The Phantom seems to have forgotten his redemption at the end of Phantom 1, Raoul is a drunk, Meg is sexy and cold-hearted, etc.

Ramin says he portrays the Phantom as having Aspergers Syndrome, so I wonder how he'll act now that the Phantom 'walks among normal people'.

Updated On: 10/8/09 at 01:08 AM

I really wish Leroux had gotten around to writing the sequel for the Lon Chaney film he was thinking about. It was something about Erik surviving and stalking Christine and Raoul to a Spanish opera house.

Although I suppose it's much easier to write a sequel to ALW than Leroux, since, y'know, Leroux!Erik sort of DIES at the end.

Updated On: 10/8/09 at 01:23 AM

If Leroux wrote it, it would be brilliant. AND everyone would be in-character.

I believe there was something about him switching places with one of the mob members and jumping in the river.

Personally, instead of a sequel, I'd rather see a prequel using Kay's Phantom as source material. Now that is a compelling story. I daresay I like it more than Leroux's original novel.


And on a different note, I wonder what the Phantom will wear? Ramin in my avatar made me think of it. He can't just go around wearing an evening suit all the time. It'll be odd to see him without it, though. Do you think they'd dare to change the mask?

Updated On: 10/8/09 at 01:32 AM