Big Phantom Love Never Dies announcement, original Phantom to close? — Page 2

"Because he had the biggest willy"

Of course, that implies that she's seen EVERYONE'S willy.

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Nope.

Bye, Bye Birdie had Bring Back Birdie in 1984 (or so)
Annie had Annie 2, then Annie 2: Miss Hannigan's Revenge and then Annie Warbucks

I'm sure those aren't the only ones.

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Bye Bye Birdie's closed after four performances.

Annie's two attempts (which were both were sequels to the original) both did horribly.

Best Little Whorehouse's only ran for two weeks.


They all seem to have faded into oblivion (except Annie Warbucks, which community theatres love), which I hope this show will... Although none of the original shows were as huge as Phantom, and I'm not sure if any Broadway sequels have run at the same time as the original.

And coincidentally enough, in the Annie sequels, there were some scenes that took place at Coney Island. I guess it's just a popular crappy sequel locale.

Updated On: 9/17/09 at 08:47 AM

But the loophole is that the Phantom is more of a Phantom than a person.

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It certainly won't be replacing the original 'Phantom' in London because it's been pretty much confirmed it's going into the Adelphi Theatre, which is a completely different venue.

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Wait what?

I thought the ending of POTO was meant to leave it ambiguous whether it was a 'ghost' or a 'man'.

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Christine discovers that he is "nothing but a man" after "Music of the Night" and says so to, I think, to Raoul. The only thing ambiguous about the final scene is where the Phantom has gone and how---when he disappears from under his cloak on the throne , leaving only the mask behind. This disappearance is only one of several magical seeming things the Phantom does throughout the show to give him the illusion of supernaturality and the power that goes with it.

I think HollyGolightly2 is right in that after he has been completely unmasked, wig and all, he clearly becomes a pathetic but angry MAN. He achieves a kind of nobility and the audience's sympathy when, in what is probably the first really unselfish act of his life, he lets Christine go with her young man although losing her devastates him.

Double Post, I'm REALLY not helping...

Updated On: 9/19/09 at 01:14 PM

"The sequel will likely spawn new interest in the original Phantom, and I would predict their will be joint ticket offers in the future (in New York, I guess this would require them putting it in a Shubert theatre)."

Guess again. It's going into the Neil Simon. Ragtime will have to vacate when Phantom 2 is ready (assuming it is still playing).

I'll tell you what I find disturbing about this premise--for the Phantom and Christine to have had a child together, he would have had to rape her after she fainted. There is no other time that we see them alone together except in the lair the first time. And that just totally destroys his character for me. I see him as a man who never felt a woman's touch. Why else would the kiss affect him so profoundly?

The idea of the sequel disappoints me also because I see the ending of the original as a redemption for the Phantom. He spent his whole life hiding away from the world, and tries to be a part of it, in a way, by reaching out to Christine. That's not in the cards for him, so he accepts it goes back into the shadows to watch from afar.

I've not heard a note of the music, but am certain the story, as revealed through interviews, will be detrimental to the original's story...as noted by EganFan2.

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"I've not heard a note of the music, but am certain the story, as revealed through interviews, will be detrimental to the original's story...as noted by EganFan2."



Andy said that fans of the original might have "trouble with the way the story continues, but there was nothing [he] could do about that, as the story is the story..."

Are you kidding me? 'Nothing he could do'?? It's based on bad fanfiction; I'm sure he could have tweaked it. He already altered Leroux's story quite a bit for the original. He's acting like Leroux himself wrote the sequel and that it's sacred (while for some reason, the original novel is not).

Updated On: 9/24/09 at 03:08 PM